OSGi 5 Implementation

[puntogil at libero.it]

Il 11/11/2013 11:35, Manuel Faux ha scritto:
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:07:55 +0100
> "puntogil at libero.it" <puntogil at libero.it> wrote:
>
>> Il 11/11/2013 10:53, Mikolaj Izdebski ha scritto:
>>> On 11/09/2013 03:25 PM, Manuel Faux wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to build NetBeans 7.4 under Fedora, which requires an
>>>> OSGi 5 specification. NetBeans originally ships the OSGi Alliance's
>>>> specification, whose license is not compatible with Fedora, as far
>>>> as I know (http://www.osgi.org/Download/Release5?info=nothanks).
>>> This license is clearly non-free.
> The strange thing is, that the pre-download information (the link
> above) shows a quite restrictive license, but when you actually
> download the file, the LICENSE file in the jar file mentions Apache
> License 2.0.
>
>>>> Is there any OSGi 5 implementation already in Fedora's repos I can
>>>> use for that purpose? All packages I checked so far only support
>>>> OSGi 4 (Eclipse Equinox, JBoss OSGi, Apache Felix).
>>> Not that I know.
>>>
>>>> I found Knopflerfish, which is a OSGi 5 platform licensed under BSD
>>>> license, which would be compatible to Fedora
>>>> (http://www.knopflerfish.org/). Unfortunately this package does
>>>> not yet exist for Fedora. Building this package, would be kind of
>>>> a plan B.
>>> Knopflerfish depends on code from OSGi Alliance [1], so if that
>>> code is non-free then packaging Knopflerfish itself won't solve the
>>> problem.
>> the main knopflerfish module no, maybe other sub-modules, depend on
>> ee.minimum.jar
> I'm not so deep into OSGi frameworks, but basically we just need the
> framework, not even the complete service platform. To build this
> framework, the ee.minimum.jar is required. Is this the critical part
the only build dep required for build this framework is objectweb-asm 3.x
(the rest of the build deps are listed as comment in my spec file 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874472)
before do this assertion should be require to know what you are talking 
about...
but i think i don't want upgrade K to 5.0.0 (OSGi R5 ri/apis, already 
built on my system), the previous release are requires for build an use 
some https://github.com/ops4j/ libraries (R4 and R5 are not compatible)
i apologized if my comment seem a bit hard
regards
> depending on OSGi Alliance licensed code? If yes, how is it ever
> possible to get an OSGi 5 framework into a FOSS product?
>
>>> [1]
>>> https://knopflerfish.org/svn/knopflerfish.org/trunk/osgi/ee/ee.minimum.jar
>>>
>> regards
> Manuel

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