Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

[Aleksandar Kurtakov]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alec Leamas" <leamas.alec at gmail.com>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:19:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora,	but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments
> 
> On 03/01/15 20:26, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
> >
> >
> > /*Luya Tshimbalanga*/ wrote on Fri, 02 Jan 2015 17:29:14 -0800:
> 
> 
> >>>>
> >>> Add-ons cannot cover development libraries, unless every library is
> >>> an add-on for all IDEs!
> 
> >> Then is IDE packaging issue. When it comes of using a development
> >> applications, the software should suggest installing the missing
> >> library. If Gnome Video is able to prompt uses to install missing
> >> component, then why shouldn't be possible for IDE application to do
> >> the same?
> >> Granted I don't know well the functionality but the logic is
> >> application should detect and suggest adding the missing function.
> 
> > Hmm... that's weird, I can't understand what you mean. Gnome Video's job
> > is very easy: a video has a special format, and there are specific
> > plugins to enable playing that. However, assume that I need an XML
> > library for C++:
> > 1. How can I tell the IDE that I need an XML library?
> > 2. What should IDE do if there are 5 different XML libraries for C++?
> > How should I tell it which one I want, specially if I don't know what
> > should I use already, and want to see what is available out there?
> >
> > To me, it seems like implementing a special purpose software manager
> > inside IDE with almost all functionality GNOME Software provides. As I
> > said in another post, user reviews/rating for development libraries
> > (like what GNOME Software provides for applications) can be really
> > helpful when a developer wants to choose a library for a specific purpose.
> 
> In other words: there is a difference between the toolchain and project
> dependencies.
> 
> The toolchain e. g. eclipse + gcc etc. can be probably partly be fixed
> using IDE dependencies, DevAssistant and similar setups reflecting
> general tool-set dependencies, agreed.
> 
> OTOH, the dependencies for a specific project cannot really be handled
> this way. Such libraries are specific for the code you build, not the
> tools. Making them dependencies of e. g., eclipse just doesn't make any
> sense.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to make dependencies of eclipse but usually when something is missing it's not that hard to find what to install programatically. Pointing again to the video for eclipse https://rgrunber.fedorapeople.org/eclipse_packagekit_2.ogv  . I remember something about Anjuta  being able to do something similar but can't find it now. Of course this can not cover every "creative" build environment but such approach works well for video codecs so it's not impossible.


Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team

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