GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

[Reindl Harald]

Am 15.01.2015 um 00:13 schrieb Reindl Harald:
> Am 14.01.2015 um 23:36 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos:
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
>>
>>     Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
>>     >On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user
>>     >were suppressed, it would be very difficult to troubleshoot such a
>>     >program, should an actual bug come along, because you would need a
>>     >different build to get useful output in the console or a logging
>>     >service.
>>
>>     Nah, it takes only a command line parameter to turn on debug
>> logging. An
>>     environment variable could also be used. A different build isn't
>> needed.
>>     It's no harder to make logging conditional at run time than it is to
>>     make it conditional at build time.
>>
>> The programs mentioned above do not have a debugging or verbosity flag,
>> like e.g. "nmap -dd"
>
> then they are broken and instead that the developer spits full my
> terminal started a remote X11 appplication because i touch something in
> that window he better would include such a switch defaulting to off
>
> start "kate" (kde app) in a remote SSH session like below
>
> "udisks2" is masked? so what - i know that
> hence there is a entry in rsyslog to shut up
>
> that crap appears everytime you successful open a file

and BTW messages like "Connecting to deprecated signal 
QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)" 
which appears for many years now prove that it is *completly useless* 
and even the developers of the application itself don't care

otherwise such warning would go away over time

the same for broken desktop-files and what not reported again and again 
in that context and nobody cares about - so why annoy the ordinary user 
with that debug informations all day long?


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