A little problem with dnf

[Radek Holy]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Radek Holy" <rholy at redhat.com>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:50:59 PM
> Subject: Re: A little problem with dnf
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adrian Soliard" <asoliard at fedoraproject.org>
> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> > <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 1:09:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: A little problem with dnf
> > 
> > 2015-01-13 6:33 GMT-03:00 Radek Holy <rholy at redhat.com>:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jan Zelený" <jzeleny at redhat.com>
> > >> To: devel at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:33:21 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: A little problem with dnf
> > >>
> > >> On 12. 1. 2015 at 07:55:26, Adrian Soliard wrote:
> > >> > 2015-01-12 5:35 GMT-03:00 Igor Gnatenko <i.gnatenko.brain at gmail.com>:
> > >> > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Jan Zelený <jzeleny at redhat.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >> On 11. 1. 2015 at 20:40:56, Adrian Soliard wrote:
> > >> > >>> Hi everyone!
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>    I'm struggling a bit with dnf. It may have advantages, but as
> > >> > >>>    an
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> end-user, I'm fighting with the list of packages when I press TAB.
> > >> > >>> It's complicated, if I forget to install a specific package, dnf
> > >> > >>> wouldn't show it to me, yum do it [1].
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> I know that dnf is newer, and surely will improve, I'm just
> > >> > >>> writing
> > >> > >>> to
> > >> > >>> let seated such problem.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> [1] http://asoliard.fedorapeople.org/dnf.png
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> What happens when you press "y"? Does it show you the completions
> > >> > >> then?
> > >> > >> I
> > >> > >> have just tried it and the list seems to be correct to me - it's
> > >> > >> just
> > >> > >> quite long because there are many packages starting with "eclipse"
> > >> >
> > >> > If I press "y" it show me a list of coincidence, but It don't matter
> > >> > if is installed or not.
> > >> >
> > >> > >> In any case if you think there is something wrong with dnf, we
> > >> > >> encourage
> > >> > >> you to file a bug but this doesn't seem to be the case.
> > >> >
> > >> > I know, that's not a problem, I'm not going to open a bug for this.;
> > >> > But I think is good to know, as I said before, dnf is newer than yum,
> > >> > it will improve
> > >> >
> > >> > > This will happens, because installed packages is available packages
> > >> > > I
> > >> > > think and we relying completion on available packages.
> > >> >
> > >> > Try it: Install a package (a simple package, like "homebank"), and
> > >> > then write "dnf install homeba" and TAB.
> > >> > dnf will autocomplete "homebank", and you already has installed it.
> > >>
> > >> Ah I didn't get what the problem was. Now I can see the problem and
> > >> reproduce
> > >> it. Not a big deal but should be fixed somewhere down the road. I would
> > >> still
> > >> like to ask you to file a bug so this doesn't get lost in the swamp of
> > >> other
> > >> bugs and enhancements we work on.
> > >
> > 
> > Ok, I will consider sending a bug, as you say, It's not a big deal,
> > but, in this case, I'm looking for different packages with yum, dnf
> > returns a long list of eclipse* packages, even if installed.
> > 
> > > BTW, in case of YUM, it would make sense to suggest even installed
> > > packages
> > > because "yum install homebank" means "install the latest homebank or
> > > upgrade to the latest version of homebank".
> > 
> > The problem is that when you press TAB to autocomplete, dnf returns a
> > list with all packages, and yum exclude the installed ones.
> 
> I understand your problem. My point was that people who are used type "yum
> install pkg" instead of "yum upgrade pkg" (even when they want to upgrade an
> already installed package) wouldn't consider it a bug.

OK, we have just decided that DNF will stay with it's current behaviour which means that "dnf install homebank" wouldn't upgrade any already installed homebank version (unless --best switch is used). In that case, the problem that you have described might be considered a bug and thus we'll appreciate if you file a Bugzilla.

Thank you
-- 
Radek Holý
Associate Software Engineer
Software Management Team
Red Hat Czech