F22 Self Contained Change: Disabled Repositories Support

Jaroslav Reznik jreznik at redhat.com
Thu Mar 19 10:06:04 UTC 2015


----- Original Message -----
> On 03/18/2015 05:46 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Mike Pinkerton  wrote:
> >
> >
> >     What I don't understand is the wisdom of an official Fedora
> >     "product" endorsing a copr when either the software or packaging (or
> >     both) is not of sufficient quality to make it into the official
> >     Fedora repo.
> >
> >
> > I don't think of it as a endorsement.
> I see them as a means of discouraging people from packaging for Fedora:
> 
> Ask yourself: "Why should I package a package properly, when I can get
> off 'cheap'?" - msuchy's rationale is along this line.
> 
> > It is making them more easily
> > discoverable but there is going to be a prompt of some sort that warns
> > them of the nature of such software and users get to choose whether they
> > are willing to accept that tradeoff for immediate access.  One might
> > choose to use say, Chromium regardless of the bundling issues for example.
> 
> There are many more ways why a package not to be eligible for Fedora
> than "bundling":
> - Illegal/patent-encumbered in the US, but legal to distribute in other
> countries.
> - Legal to distribute binaries, repackaged for "packager lazyness",
> (e.g. Java) or complexity (foreign arch binaries needed to support
> cross-toolchains).
> - Content-only packages (Videos, Audiofiles).
> - Packages with ethical/political controversial contents.
> ...
> 
> In other words, if you are really serious about this plan, you need some
> authority to continuously review the packages in such "endorsed" repos,
> technically, legally and "politically".

And that's what Council agreed on. The process is not yet set but it may
end up on Council's table.

By the way, for non-good stuff you mentioned above - it's already not
allowed to do it in Coprs - https://fedorahosted.org/copr/wiki/UserDocs#WhatIcanbuildinCopr

So for Copr, I'm in support of this proposal as it perfectly fits with
the idea of Playground repository I helped to draft. Copr is part of
Fedora project (and I even would like it more integral part as part of
Koji). For repositories outside Fedora Project, I stated on the Council
meeting, that I'd require opt-in/opt-out consent from user before even
search for such disabled repository is allowed. But it would be one
dialog with ack/nack and explanation what does it mean.

Jaroslav

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> Ralf
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