fedup for F23 and beyond

[Reindl Harald]

Am 29.05.2015 um 01:11 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen:
> On 28 May 2015 at 16:42, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro at gnome.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 15:05 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>> With timed: you don't get the newest thing, but switching to the new
>>> stuff is more on your schedule. You can ignore the new release for a
>>> while and still get bugfixes/security updates until you are ready to
>>> do
>>> the upgrade.
>>
>> I should add one more thing: in my vision, applications are always
>> updated, period, and that's more important than anything else. We have
>> to do that no matter what, or people will start leaving Fedora for
>> Ubuntu Snappy Whatever which is supposed to arrive real soon now.
>> They're going to have a stable OS with up-to-date applications (not
>> considered part of the OS!), and we need that too to remain
>> competitive.
>
> Good luck with that vision. I would buy into it a bit more if this
> wasn't the same chestnut dragged out every couple of releases to
> somehow motivate us to accept whatever big OS change is being pushed.
> It has become the "Cry Wolf" story and while eventually the wolf eats
> the flock... it does so because no one believes the criers anymore

me too and besides that gnome is (luckily) not the only desktop on 
Fedora - Fedora *does not* need to be competitive for the price becoming 
the same and hit *existing users* in the face which choose Fedora 
*because it s* Fedora and *not* Ubuntu, Windows or OSX

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