Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 11.9.2015 v 17:21 Matthew Miller napsal(a):
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 03:51:33PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>>>  * Increases the available pool of software that can be packaged
>>> substantially (many modern languages such as Ruby and Go are
>>> realistically only functional with allowable bundling)
>> Not sure why you put Ruby into this group. There is no evidence that
>> bundling is more prominent in Ruby then in other languages. If your
>> judgment is based on existence of rubygem-bundler, then you completely
>> misunderstand purpose of the project.
> Really? I think it's completely fair to say that "vendor everything!"
> has at least historically been a cultural norm for Ruby development.
>
>

So what are your chances to install for example Redmine on Fedora?
Bundle everything using Bundler, because Fedora does not provide
multiple versions of Rails.

And I repeat it again and again, rails32-3.2-1, rails40-4.0-1,
rails41-4.1-1 and rails42-4.2-1 packages with all their dependencies are
not way forward. The tooling should support rails-3.2-1 and rails-4.0-1
simultaneous installation, but even the minimal step towards this, i.e.
treet the packages as install only packages and allow the upgrades when
only release is changed  is actively denied by all parties involved in
tooling.

And not going far for example, this [1] ticket was opened just today.
This does not harm anybody, but yet if seems to be problem to have to
versions of rubygem-json.



Vít


[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1261931