Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

[Reindl Harald]

Am 14.09.2015 um 20:50 schrieb Adam Williamson:
> On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 20:38 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>>> It's not a case of whether anyone here wants to go down that road
>>> or
>>> not, because we are already there.
>>>
>>> There is a reason that the Atomic / CoreOS idea combined with
>>> Docker
>>> is gaining traction, and it is because it deals with the reality of
>>> dealing with software whose dependencies don't work in the
>>> traditional
>>> distribution world
>>
>> so i don't live in the real world?
>
> Last time I checked, Harald Reindl was not the only Fedora user in the
> world.
>
> Your argument essentially boils down to "I don't do this, therefore
> nobody else in the world does, or at least nobody else in the world
> needs to". That is not a particularly convincing argument.

no, i am far not the only user with that usecases around me

>> that's it - AND NO - there is no business try to pack every php
>> thing as
>> RPM because - as example wordpress - who the hell gains anything
>> with a
>> package when you have 10, 100, 200 users with their webspace and
>> just a
>> single location - that works for things like phpMyAdmin with a
>> simple
>> authentication against the database server but not for virtual
>> webspaces
>> - but nobody right in his mind expects that to work with RPM and/or
>> distribution packages
>
> Um. But weren't you just saying:
>
> "if Fedora changes to more and more recommend "pip", "gem" and "cpan"
> like installs instead RPM packages it is no longer a distribution over
> the long because that would mean finally you have a core OS and handle
> anything else like Microsoft or Apple - does anybody really want to go
> that road?"

there is a difference between an application and a webspace

> So...I'm finding it difficult to understand what it is you're actually
> *saying* here

if you don't understand the difference between applications fro a single 
machiens and webspaces running similar applications fro 100, 200, 300, 
1000 instances then it may be difficult

one thing is the operating system
the other things are userdata and a webspace is clearly userdata

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