<div dir="ltr">2008/10/20 Toshio Kuratomi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.badger@gmail.com">a.badger@gmail.com</a>></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">David Woodhouse wrote:<br>
> On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 09:18 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:<br>
>> So I'm going to do this tomorrow or have to put it off until after<br>
>> change freeze.<br>
>><br>
>> The name I personally favour is masterpackager since it evokes the<br>
>> apprentice, journeyman, master craftsman stages that seem most like what<br>
>> we're modeling here.<br>
>><br>
>> I know this isn't as flamboyant as ultrapackager, superpackager, etc but<br>
>> can everyone live with this?<br>
><br>
> No, I'm offended by the idea that a common root used in many geek words<br>
> can so easily be declared 'unclean' and eradicated. This is political<br>
> correctness at its worst, and I find it horrifically offensive. And<br>
> that's a _current_ issue, not one from the previous millennium.<br>
><br>
> I have no particular attachment to the 'überpackager' name, but I object<br>
> strongly to the change on _principle_. Please leave it as it was.<br>
><br>
</div>I'll comment on this:<br>
<br>
I kinda agree with you on the principle of the thing.<br>
<br>
However, I also just plain don't like uberpackager. uber has the<br>
connotation of "superior" where I think the group name should be<br>
shooting for the meanings of "more experienced", "proven" and "trusted".<br>
<br>
So "ultrapackager", "superpackager", and other prefixes that mean<br>
"superior" would be changing the name just because we want to<br>
self-censor our use of the prefix "uber" due to feeling the word is unclean.<br>
<br>
I see changing to "masterpackager", "provenpackager", "trustedpackager",<br>
"experiencedpackager" as a change to be closer to what differentiates<br>
the group from "packager". The fact that it doesn't have the<br>
connotations of uber that started the discussion is an additional plus.<br>
<br>
Note that if tibbs is serious about the master/slave connotation, I'd be<br>
happy to change to "provenpackager" instead of "masterpackager" at this<br>
time. But once the change is made, I'd be less inclined to change since<br>
it would be a change just for the political correctness aspect, not to<br>
be closer to the true meaning of the group.<br>
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-Toshio<br>
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