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Williamson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:awilliam@redhat.com"><awilliam@redhat.com></a></b></i> wrote on 05/10/2010
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<pre wrap="">On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 11:33 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Dne 10.5.2010 11:26, drago01 napsal(a):
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<pre wrap="">To have stuff just work.
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Go to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://senate.gov/">http://senate.gov/</a> and ask your congressman to fix it. Otherwise
(for example if you don't have your congressman because you are not a
U.S. citizen), you can also try to move Red Hat's headquarters outside
of U.S. (although I am not sure, it would be enough, you would probably
ask its biggest clients to move).
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That's the wrong argument. We all know why we _can't_ make it just work,
but that doesn't excuse us. Sorry to take a well-worn analogy, but if
two guys are trying to sell you cars, and one doesn't have an engine,
would the fact that the guy selling the car with no engine has a *really
good and inarguable reason* why it doesn't have an engine make you buy
that car? Hell no. You'd buy the car with the engine.
Just because we have a *really good reason* we can't ship this stuff
doesn't mean we are excused from the fact that it's a distinct negative
for the use of our operating system as a general-purpose desktop
operating system.
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Just my 0.2 cents in this regard: well, we have a car without engine,
and a suitable engine is built somewhere which we can't use. But, I
wonder why there is nobody to pick our car and the engine and sell the
car with engine to people who don't want to do that themselves? <br>
RPMFusion is a very well-known engine builder! While there were/are
some efforts to ship our car with its engine, there is no well-known
Fedora remix which contains the extra stuff (it is probably because
most of the current users have already adopted with using rpmfusion if
they want it). If we can come up with enough people to provide and
maintain a Fedora remix for awhile, it can become well-known and
something which is always there, so we can point beginners to that one
instead of other distros if they want such a distro.<br>
We (I and a very few others) are going to create a remix, but our
current target users are a bit more restricted (mostly because of lack
of manpower) (Also we are currently targeting a DVD installation media
rather than live media). But if there are some other interested people
out there, we can go for the mentioned remix (and we will probably base
our custom remix on that). <br>
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Good luck,<br>
Hedayat<br>
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