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On 06/10/2011 09:36 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 06/10/2011 03:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I understand your desire to replace everything by systemd.
I really do. syslogd, klogd, mount, fsck, and a dozen other things
I forget or don't know.
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You're exaggerating.
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<pre wrap="">Why does systemd link against libpam?
systemd does logins now, not /bin/login or gdm or ...?
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to implement PAMName= (man systemd.exec)
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<pre wrap="">libattr? Does it mean it requires filesystem which implements
extended attributes? If not, why does it use libattr then?
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systemd uses libcap. libcap depends on libattr.
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<pre wrap="">libwrap? systemd is a network application now too?
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to implement TCPWrapName= (man systemd.exec)
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<pre wrap="">libaudit? What systemd has in common with audit?
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Start and stop of a service is an auditable event.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-August/141543.html">http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-August/141543.html</a>
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<pre wrap="">To be honest, I doubt the wisdom of implementing service manager
as an init process. There is no inherent reason why it has to be init -
you can run it as *a child of init*, and keep init very simple.
Then, if service manager would crash, at least it doesn't
take system down with it...
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systemd does not take the system down when it crashes. It catches the
signal, dumps core and freezes, but does not exit.
^^^^^^^
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So you just end up with a "froze" system instead of a crashed
system????<br>
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<pre wrap="">Michal
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