<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Deepak Bhole <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dbhole@redhat.com">dbhole@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
* Toshio Kuratomi <<a href="mailto:a.badger@gmail.com">a.badger@gmail.com</a>> [2011-07-23 20:03]:<br>
<div class="im">> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 02:00:24PM -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote:<br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > Just something I wanted to bring to attention:<br>
> ><br>
> > Java 7 is slated for release (after years of hassle and heated debate)<br>
> > on 28 July, 2011.<br>
> > I think this would be an important feature to include for the Fedora<br>
> > 16 release, and the months between Java's release and Fedora 16's 25<br>
> > October release would allow plenty of time to integrate Java 7. If I'm<br>
> > not mistaken, if Java 7 isn't released this time around, it won't be<br>
> > in Fedora until the Fedora 17 release rolls around, nearly a year (!)<br>
> > after Java 7 is released.<br>
> ><br>
> > I created an unfinished, skeletal feature page here:<br>
> > <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Java7" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Java7</a><br>
> > Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge to help build it. I'm<br>
> > announcing it here in case whoever maintains Java 6 in Fedora, or<br>
> > someone else, is interested.<br>
> ><br>
<br>
</div>I was planning to do this myself .. glad you started it :) I can take<br>
over the Feature and doing all the work if you're fine with it...<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> The alpha change deadline is a week and three days away so this is very<br>
> likely too late. If you want to try to get an exception to get this in, you<br>
> need to get the Java SIG excited to do it, get the Feature page finished<br>
> (with estimates of how much time it will take to finish and who will do the<br>
> work) and put it before FESCo/Feature Wrangler to see if they'll grant an<br>
> exception.<br>
><br>
> Judging by the state things are in now, I don't know that it looks too<br>
> hopeful unless you get some Java SIG people to commit to working on it.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>This is doable by the Alpha deadline. The main holdup for us has been a<br>
lack of OpenJDK TCK for v7. The actual RPM can be written fairly<br>
quickly. We were hopeful that we'd be able to push a more tested initial<br>
version. But given the deadlines, it appears we will have to push<br>
whatever we have right now and modify/fix it as needed when we have the<br>
TCK.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>Personally I would much sooner you wait until the feature deadline has passed and we've branched the release and then push it directly to the new F-17 rawhide so a better impact of what it breaks can be seen. If at that point its all fairly minor only then review and see what it would take to push back into F-16. A rushed effort will only cause chaos right when we're suppose to be tightening and stabilising the release.<br>
<br>If java se 7 was going to be in F-16 there should have been RCs in there for some time, the rough date for release has been known for some time and it should be planned.<br><br>Peter<br></div></div>