<html><head></head><body><div class="gmail_quote">Michael scherer <misc@zarb.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap:break-word; font-family: sans-serif">On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 02:10:38AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:<br />> Tomasz Torcz wrote:<br />> > Documenting the procedure may be viable after all. Kevin, could you start<br />> > writing such guides on Fedora wiki?<br />> <br />> I cannot start documenting this before the first "Secure"-Boot-enabled <br />> firmware actually ships.<br /><br />Sure you can, just send a email to OEMs to have access to engineering samples.<br /><br />You can also start to organize the effort to review UEFI interface, by creating<br />a "UEFI documenting SIG", and let all the people who want to document as a alternative<br />to paying 99$ to Verisign take care of the logistics.<br />-- <br />Michael Scherer<br />-- <br />devel mailing list<br />devel@lists.fedoraproject.org<br /><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel</a></pre></blockquote></div><br clear="all">While this reply is informative, it tends to imply that KK should do this without any support from those that disagree with his position.<br>
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Having watched this thread over the last 24 hours I would like to understand where we are going with it. There are different positions with increasingly shrill talking at and talking past replies. <br>
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The media has already posted articles on this as "fedora selling out to Microsoft". This cannot be good long term for the reputation of the project.<br>
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A lot of work has been put into this by MG and his article seemed to imply almost a despairing resignation about the decision (if not the case then I misread it -sorry). Based on the comments of this thread can a working group or sig be set up to build on MG and Co's work to find the most workable solution that preserves the reputation of the project. Otherwise I fear the distro will gain zero new users but worse lose the ones it already has!<br>
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Happy to help but new to the inner workings of the project so please bear that in mind when replying.<br>
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