The discussion has been very interesting, and it is probably being followed by a lot of non-Fedora developers as well.<div><br></div><div>[To be honest, I first bought the pro-"find-a-simple-enough-work-around-to-SecureBoot-issue" arguments. But, reading through the arguments from KK, Adam and some others, I must admit I would now favour the "If you want Fedora, just disable SecureBoot" solution]</div>
<div><br></div><div>My point is: Fedora has long been criticised for never having natively supported (<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items</a>) non-free media codecs (MP4, DivX, etc), non-free databases (Oracle, IBM DB2, etc), without speaking about "basic" software pieces such as Adobe Acrobat Reader, Adobe Flash, Oracle/Sun's Java JDK. And every time the argument is the same (<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/MP3">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/MP3</a>, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash</a>, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Java">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Java</a> ), along the lines of:</div>
<div>"Adobe's Flash plugin cannot be included in Fedora because it is not free/libre and open source software", "Fedora is unable to include encoding and decoding support for the MP3 format because it requires patented technologies and the patent holder has not provided licenses that are compatible with Fedora's requirements", "If it is proprietary, it cannot be included in Fedora. (Binary firmware is the only exception to this); If it is legally encumbered, it cannot be included in Fedora"</div>
<div><br></div><div>The official Fedora wiki barely explains (<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_party_repositories">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_party_repositories</a>) how to install all those license-encumbered packages, so that most of the time, Fedora users have to search on the web for those procedures. Fortunately enough, a lot of blog entries explain that much better than the official Fedora wiki. Understand me: I am perfectly fine with Fedora not "messing with license-encumbered packages" and relying on third party repositories for that. My point is just that I do not find it consistent to then compromise our great principles in "supporting" SecureBoot, at least indirectly.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In other terms: if Fedora users are supposed to know how to install multimedia codecs, Flash, pristine Java JDK, Google suites (Chrome, Earth, Picasa, Desktop), Oracle database clients, without explicit Fedora support(!), is it a big deal to also ask them to know how to disable SecureBoot (with explicit Fedora support)?</div>
<div><br></div><div>That question is just food for thoughts. So, no need to start new flame wars :)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Denis</div>