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<h1>#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-01-30)</h1>
<span class="details">
Meeting started by mmaslano at 18:01:17 UTC
(<a href="fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html">full logs</a>).</span>
<br><br>
<h3>Meeting summary</h3>
<ol>
<li><b class="TOPIC">init process</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-8'>mmaslano</a>, 18:01:39)</span>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1001 F19 Feature: JRuby 1.7 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/JRuby_1.7</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-21'>mmaslano</a>, 18:03:40)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">JRuby 1.7 is
F19 feature if FPC acks it (+7,-0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-37'>mmaslano</a>,
18:05:53)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1002 F19 Feature: Ruby 2.0.0 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ruby_2.0.0</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-38'>mmaslano</a>, 18:05:58)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">Ruby 2.0 is
F19 feature if FPC acks it (+7,-0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-54'>mmaslano</a>,
18:07:45)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1004 Mass rebuild schedule</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-56'>mmaslano</a>, 18:08:05)</span>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1006 F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-86'>mmaslano</a>, 18:12:27)</span>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1025 En bloc features for January 30</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-146'>mmaslano</a>, 18:20:00)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">All features
from #1025 will be accepted as F19 features execpt
FirstClassCloudImages and SharedSystemCertificates which shall be
discussed separately (+9,0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-164'>mmaslano</a>,
18:21:48)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1008 F19 Feature: First-Class Cloud Images - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirstClassCloudImages</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-165'>mmaslano</a>, 18:22:09)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">defer to next
week, more discussion with other relengs needed (+6,-0)</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-268'>mmaslano</a>,
18:39:08)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1019 F19 Feature: Shared System Certificates - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SharedSystemCertificates</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-269'>mmaslano</a>, 18:39:47)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">Shared System
Certificates are F19 feature (+8,-0, 1 abstain)</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-311'>mmaslano</a>,
18:51:03)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1006 F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-313'>mmaslano</a>, 18:52:11)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><a
href="http://markmail.org/message/q5fk6lxlniq2p6gz?q=python#query:python+page:1+mid:oybas2zmjrpo2hap+state:results">http://markmail.org/message/q5fk6lxlniq2p6gz?q=python#query:python+page:1+mid:oybas2zmjrpo2hap+state:results</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-334'>mattdm</a>,
18:54:48)</span></li>
<li><a
href="http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/176635.html">http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/176635.html</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-390'>abadger1999</a>,
19:04:10)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">Replace MySQL
with MariaDB is F19 feature (+7,-0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-455'>mmaslano</a>,
19:12:26)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1006 F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-466'>mmaslano</a>, 19:13:46)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">Feature
accepted as proposed (including obsoletion as a transition
mechanism). If new MySQL maintainers appear, feature owners are
asked to make it possible to install the MySQL stand-alone server
(only) (+7,-0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-482'>mmaslano</a>,
19:15:29)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1007 F19 Feature: Checkpoint/Restore - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Checkpoint_Restore</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-488'>mmaslano</a>, 19:16:08)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span
class="AGREED">Checkpoint/Restore is F19 feature (+9,-0)</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-503'>mmaslano</a>,
19:18:15)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1009 F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraUpgrade</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-504'>mmaslano</a>, 19:19:19)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">sgallagh to
ask fedora-upgrade maintainers to consider renaming to avoid
confusion</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-562'>nirik</a>,
19:28:24)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">sgallagh will
speak with Board about formalizing a request process for adding
packages with fedora in their name</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-563'>mmaslano</a>,
19:28:24)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">Fedora
Upgrade feature is rejected (+0,-7)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-588'>mmaslano</a>,
19:31:44)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1022 F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdPredictableNetworkInterfaceNames</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-606'>mmaslano</a>, 19:33:42)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">systemd/udev
Predictable Network Interface Names are accepted as F19 feature
(+7,-0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-643'>mmaslano</a>,
19:46:30)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">systemd/udev
Predictable Network Interface Names - upgrades shouldn't change
naming (+5,-0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-648'>mmaslano</a>,
19:46:59)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">eno=>em
tweak is required (+5, -1)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-695'>mmaslano</a>,
19:57:08)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1024 F19 Feature: MEMSTOMP - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MEMSTOMP</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-696'>mmaslano</a>, 19:57:17)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">MEMSTOMP is
F19 feature (+7,-0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-709'>mmaslano</a>,
19:58:43)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">#1004 Mass rebuild schedule</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-710'>mmaslano</a>, 19:58:52)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">mass rebuild
on 8th (+6,-0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-754'>mmaslano</a>,
20:03:38)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Next week's chair</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-773'>mmaslano</a>, 20:05:50)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">nirik will
chair next meeting</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-779'>mmaslano</a>,
20:06:20)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Open Floor</b> <span class="details">(<a href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-781'>mmaslano</a>, 20:06:28)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">jreznik will
propose schedule</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-785'>mmaslano</a>,
20:06:38)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">SB: pjones will to SWG and try to get
clarification that expiration cannot be honored.</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-847'>mmaslano</a>,
20:15:13)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">SB: pjones will got to USWG and try to get
clarification that expiration cannot be honored.</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-851'>mmaslano</a>,
20:15:38)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">nodejs
guideliens were approved contingent on a fesco multilib exemption,
odejs wants to install and find modules in one path under /usr/lib
rather than %{_libdir} which may be /usr/lib64 (+6,-0)</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-867'>mmaslano</a>,
20:21:18)</span></li>
<li><a
href="http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/176796.html">http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/176796.html</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-961'>abadger1999</a>,
20:41:01)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">rubypick will
be implemented as proposed by domain experts in JRuby feature
(+5,-0)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html#l-1007'>mmaslano</a>,
20:53:07)</span></li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<span class="details">
Meeting ended at 20:54:15 UTC
(<a href="fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html">full logs</a>).</span>
<br><br>
<h3>Action items</h3>
<ol>
<li>sgallagh to ask fedora-upgrade maintainers to consider renaming to avoid confusion</li>
<li>sgallagh will speak with Board about formalizing a request process for adding packages with fedora in their name</li>
<li>nirik will chair next meeting</li>
<li>jreznik will propose schedule</li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<h3>Action items, by person</h3>
<ol>
<li> jreznik <ol>
<li>jreznik will propose schedule</li>
</ol></li>
<li> nirik <ol>
<li>nirik will chair next meeting</li>
</ol></li>
<li> sgallagh <ol>
<li>sgallagh to ask fedora-upgrade maintainers to consider renaming to avoid confusion</li>
<li>sgallagh will speak with Board about formalizing a request process for adding packages with fedora in their name</li>
</ol></li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<h3>People present (lines said)</h3>
<ol>
<li>mmaslano (150)</li>
<li>pjones (138)</li>
<li>sgallagh (114)</li>
<li>nirik (113)</li>
<li>mitr (102)</li>
<li>abadger1999 (88)</li>
<li>t8m (77)</li>
<li>notting (63)</li>
<li>jwb (39)</li>
<li>mattdm (33)</li>
<li>zodbot (24)</li>
<li>jreznik (15)</li>
<li>mjg59 (11)</li>
<li>fenrus02 (9)</li>
<li>Viking-Ice (9)</li>
<li>jgreguske (8)</li>
<li>drago01 (6)</li>
<li>law (5)</li>
<li>kalev (2)</li>
<li>arthurbuliva (1)</li>
<li>alorenzi (1)</li>
<li>jmoskovc (1)</li>
<li>pingou (1)</li>
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