<tt><font size=2>> From: Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com></font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> To: Development discussions related to Fedora
<devel@lists.fedoraproject.org></font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> Date: 03/13/2013 09:47</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> Subject: Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> Sent by: devel-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</font></tt>
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> On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 09:34 -0400, John.Florian@dart.biz wrote:<br>
> > > From: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com> <br>
> > > I'm sure there were a bunch of sorry whiners <br>
> > > missing verbose text boot scrolling by their screen by default,
in <br>
> > > favor of graphical boot. <br>
> > <br>
> > Or perhaps those "whiners" consider themselves responsible
employees<br>
> > by being diligent in understanding what "normal and correct"
looks<br>
> > like so that they can recognize when something is going south
and<br>
> > maybe doing something to avert a crisis before it occurs. <br>
> <br>
> And maybe they are wrong, we'll never know ...</font></tt>
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<br><tt><font size=2>They being the employees or the error messages? With
either answer, I'd prefer to explain to my boss that I spent time investigating
something that was merely a false alarm than to explain why I cannot now
salvage something that has gone horribly wrong and I didn't do anything
about it because the UX to warn me was unpleasant.<br>
<br>
> > I swear that every time I read about how boot (or other) is so<br>
> > unaesthetic I really have to wonder if people are actually using
their<br>
> > system as a tool to do work, or if they're merely playing with
them as<br>
> > a novelty. Not that there's anything wrong such play, but
please stop<br>
> > trying polish the appearance at the expense of functionality
for those<br>
> > who see them only as tool. <br>
> > <br>
> So let me allow to make a parallel.<br>
> <br>
> You go working every day wearing work clothes like these [1] because
you<br>
> see them only as a tool and you need to get work done ?<br>
> An obviously caring about appearance as well as functionality or as
a<br>
> compromise is wrong, right ?</font></tt>
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<br><tt><font size=2>I have nothing wrong with wanting to make a good appearance,
but I will never put that before function. As an engineer, I see
beauty in function and capability, not glitter. If function doesn't
have to be compromised, yeah go to town with the appearance. As for
those work clothes, it would depend on the job. If I was to do business
presentations, no I wouldn't want to be caught dead dressed that way. However,
if I was about to jump in a grease pit and do some seriously dirty work,
those look mighty appealing to me.</font></tt>
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--<br>
John Florian</font>
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