<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Ralf Corsepius <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rc040203@freenet.de" target="_blank">rc040203@freenet.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On 03/13/2013 01:32 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:<br>
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On 03/12/2013 07:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:<br>
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I am saying this because I agree. To me the proposal (not the original<br>
but some point in the the 500 ms boot time "ideal" ) seemed very much<br>
a welded shut view. And as someone who has to worked on welded shut<br>
computers for asthetic reasons.. it brings out the fighting urge in<br>
me.<br>
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Did you guys actually read the blog post? Is aesthetics cited in any of<br>
the reasons for hiding the menu? No, it's not. These were the reasons I<br>
cited in favor of the proposal to hide the menu:<br>
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- We used to suppress the boot menu by default in earlier releases and<br>
its suppression didn’t cause major problems.<br>
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Well, at least for me, re-activating has always been a part of the routine after-install cleanup job, ever since I am using RH-based distros.<div class="im"><br>
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- Not listening for keypresses doesn’t probe USB, meaning not waiting<br>
for keypresses will make boot even faster since we won’t have to<br>
load/probe USB.<br>
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Is this of any importance? Non-USB-equipped systems are rare to find these days, so loading/probing USB will be inevitable in the majority of cases.<br><div class="im"></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Right now, we're probing USB twice -- one in the initrd, and once when the real kernel starts up. Making the boot menu optional will remove one of those probes.<br>
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- (Nobody explicitly stated this, but) Displaying information geared<br>
towards power users by default is intimidating / confusing to<br>
less-knowledgeable users."<br>
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I'd call this to be an urban legend. A boot menu is self-explanatory, even to new-comers.<br>
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It may baffle them when they see it for the first time, but will very soon get used to it.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>For me, personally, I remember it being uncomforting and scary.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Please be fair.<br>
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Please do so - I feel you are trying to solve a non-issue.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Ralf</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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