<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 May 2013 01:46, Adam Williamson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:awilliam@redhat.com" target="_blank">awilliam@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 22:44 +0200, Simone Caronni wrote:<br>
> I think is already a bit too late, unfortunately. On my laptop:<br>
><br>
> xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse-13.0.0-1.fc18.x86_64<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-vmware-12.0.2-3.20120718gite5ac80d8f.fc18.x86_64<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.0.22-5.20120718gitde6620788.fc18.x86_64<br>
> spice-vdagent-0.14.0-1.fc18.x86_64<br>
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</div>Well, "we have this thing that sucks, so let's add this OTHER thing that<br>
sucks" has never been the strongest logic :P
<br></blockquote><div>[..]<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
It seems like the thing to do would be to ask anaconda if it's<br>
feasible / desirable to make the installation of this stuff contingent<br>
on the environment. I kinda agree with Rich on the 'generic cloud image'<br>
case; it doesn't seem like it'd be too difficult to just explicitly<br>
include the necessary packages in generating such an image, so I don't<br>
think it's particularly compelling to say we have to put useless<br>
packages on everyone's systems just so that someone building a generic<br>
image has a slightly easier time of it.<br>
<br>
If anaconda doesn't want to do the 'contingent install' thing, then the<br>
'just install it everywhere' option seems like the second best choice.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, this is exactly my point, I was simply showing an example of this.<br></div><div>I'm not a sponsor of having open-vm-tools installed by default.<br>
<br></div><div>My preference would be not to install anything that is needed for a particular environment and install the additional packages on demand.<br></div><div>I dont' see any problem in performing one of those for a sysadmin:<br>
<br></div><div>yum install open-vm-tools<br>yum install open-vm-tools-desktop (this could pull the vmmouse and vmware xorg drivers in)</div><div>yum install spice-vdagent (this could pull the qxl driver in)<br></div><div>
yum install ovirt-guest-agent<br><br></div><div>an image is never prepared as-is with the default installation, so I don't see the problem of performing an additional command.<br><br></div><div>Having said that; what would be cool, is to have Anaconda detect the environment and install the correct packages at install time, so for example a user could have a nice starting impression after the first install.<br>
<br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div>--Simone<br></div><div><br></div></div><br>-- <br>You cannot discover new oceans unless you have the courage to lose sight of the shore (R. W. Emerson).<br>
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