<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Reindl Harald <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:h.reindl@thelounge.net" target="_blank">h.reindl@thelounge.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">in my life i make descisions and follow them straight<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If you're one person, it's fairly easy to make a decision and follow it straight through to completion. If you're a Linux distribution, it's a bit harder to make radical shifts -- and heaven only knows that Fedora takes more radical shifts than many other Linux distributions.<br>
<br>Your logical fallacy here is that the distribution works just like you do. I've seen you argue time and time again in the mailing lists that because *you* do things a certain way, that the *distribution* should work that way. Or that if you don't like a particular tool, that the distribution shouldn't use it. I don't know how else to say it other than to come right out and say it directly -- the distribution doesn't revolve around you. It doesn't revolve around me either, and didn't even revolve around me while I was the FPL. It revolves around collective consensus and the authority delegated to those we elect to FESCo and FAmSCo and to those on the Fedora Board. <br>
<br></div><div>Now to come back from the theoretical to the case in point -- systemd. Yes, we *could* have held up the release of the entire distribution (for how long?) until every single System-V and upstart style initscript was converted over to systemd. I could argue that doing so might have technically been the right thing for *systemd*, but I cannot argue that it's the right thing for the distribution overall. Fedora is a living breathing collection of moving parts -- you can't stop the entire process just to make one tiny portion perfect. The whole reason we have an engineering steering committee is so that they can make the tough decisions on items like this. You can continue to argue about what should have happened in the past, but it's not going to change the fact that we've collectively made a decision to keep rolling Fedora releases without having everything perfectly converted over to systemd. <br>
<br>If you think I'm wrong and feel like pressing the issue further, I invite you to open a FESCo ticket and have them review the issue again. But please, don't continue to rant about decisions made in the past without trying to find a way to make things better in the future. Open source is about scratching itches -- you can either scratch the itch yourself, convince someone else to scratch the itch for you, or convince someone else that it's really them that's itching. Complaining about an itch you had two years ago doesn't help relieve the itchy feeling.<br>
<br>--<br></div><div>Jared Smith<br></div></div></div></div>