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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/17/2013 08:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram
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      <div dir="ltr">HI<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM,
              "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <span dir="ltr"></span> wrote:<br>
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                <div class="im">On 07/17/2013 08:23 PM, Matthew Miller
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                    Are you suggesting we somehow need to patch all of
                    these to use the journal<br>
                    instead of their own ad-hoc log file? Because that
                    is Definitely Out of<br>
                    Scope for this proposal.<br>
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                No that's not what I'm proposing.<span class="HOEnZb"></span></blockquote>
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              <div>Then using yum provides to determine the count as
                about 597 is wrong.  <br>
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    Cut that number by half if you like if it somehow makes you feel
    more comfortable but the fact we have around 550 - 600
    service/daemons components in the distribution and still no policy
    or work being done to properly package stuff that need/wants or uses
    rsyslog/syslog-ng/logwatch/logrotate/logchec etc... <br>
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    If you really dont understand the need for us to clean things as we
    introduce new features that's not something I can help you with. <br>
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    It's fesco duty to do the necessary research into the actual scope
    of this feature and let's just give them time to do that and reach
    conclusion.<br>
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    JBG<br>
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