<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 July 2013 16:51, Eric Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brouhaha@fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">brouhaha@fedoraproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
</div></div>Maybe your question is poorly stated, then.<br>
<br>
What I thought you asked was how to read Linux log files from a<br>
Windows installation, e.g., when Linux fails to boot.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is indeed the question - so given you understood it so it seems I would say that it was not poorly stated.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In the past I've been able to do that using ext2fsd without much difficulty. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>This will not work depending on ext4 options, if LVM is in use or if BTRFS is used which is of course now supported as an option in the installer.</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I used that method when I wasn't able to boot a rescue or live CD,</blockquote><div><br>
</div><div>Then you were not using it with a default installed Fedora anyway which has a default of LVM in place</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
and the last resort would have been to pull the hard drive from the<br>
machine and use a different computer to inspect it. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>That or live media is the best option in general... I know above you said you couldn't use a live CD and I'm quite curious as to why.</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> But if /var/log/messages is not made available by default, then using ext2fsd<br>
won't work, and other methods become more difficult also.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It already won't work for a default installed Fedora ... there is no difference.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
My main complaint is that removing the default syslog to<br>
/var/log/messages makes it harder for me to diagnose broken machines<br>
that OTHER people have set up, because those other people aren't going<br>
to have installed a non-default syslog daemon. Certainly if it's a<br>
machine I'm installing, I'll know to install syslog.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well fortunately you pay attention to these lists so you know to look at the README and if /var/log/messages is not there (or if Fedora in general now) you should use journalctl instead...</div>
<div><br></div></div><br></div></div>