<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 January 2014 15:49, inode0 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:inode0@gmail.com" target="_blank">inode0@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Jon <<a href="mailto:jdisnard@gmail.com">jdisnard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Stephen Gallagher <<a href="mailto:sgallagh@redhat.com">sgallagh@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Apologies for the slightly alarmist $SUBJECT, but I want to make sure<br>
>> that this gets read by the appropriate groups.<br>
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>> 1) Are Spins useful as they currently exist? There are many problems<br>
>> that have been noted in the Spins process, most notably that it is<br>
>> very difficult to get a Spin approved and then has no ongoing<br>
>> maintenance requiring it to remain functional. We've had Spins at<br>
>> times go through entire Fedora release cycles without ever being<br>
>> functional.<br>
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> Putting on my rel-eng hat I can say that any spin that fails to<br>
> compose will be dropped.<br>
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> I believe we also encourage or even require the spin maintainers to<br>
> test their spin as functional.<br>
> (To work out if the spin succeeds to compose but fails to actually work)<br>
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> The idea is to encourage active spin process, inactive spins will auto<br>
> retire by policy if they fail.<br>
><br>
> Another aspect I worry about is the mirroring stuff.<br>
> With the coming WGs I fear the rsync mirroring will grow very large,<br>
> and spins are an attractive piece of fat to cut.<br>
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</div>You probably didn't mean for that to sound so negative but a piece of<br>
fat to cut is how rel-eng thinks of spins?<br>
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I recall being assured at the beginning that some interested company<br>
was willing to provide the necessary support for us to give this a<br>
fair try.<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How long is a fair try? It would help to define that before people go on a rant about doing it for a couple of years now. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>
-- <br><div dir="ltr">Stephen J Smoogen.<br><br></div>
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