<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Adam Williamson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:awilliam@redhat.com" target="_blank">awilliam@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":17q" style="overflow:hidden">On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 16:33 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:<br>
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> > I'd rather not confuse what is made from Fedora bits with what is<br>
> > based on Fedora bits but includes other bits. The remix branding does<br>
> > not seem appropriate for spins that are made purely from Fedora bits.<br>
><br>
> That's fair. From a resource and quality perspective though, I'd<br>
> rather not burden rel-eng and QA with having to maintain, create, and<br>
> test spins.<br>
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The 'burden' they create on QA is precisely zero, as we explicitly do<br>
not block releases on spins other than desktop and KDE. I don't believe<br>
releng considers the spins much of a burden, either - it's more just<br>
that they don't like building and pushing out stuff that no-one's even<br>
done a sanity check on. However, we have several high quality spins that<br>
people *do* care about and *do* test: at least the desktop spins, but I<br>
know for e.g. finalzone puts a lot of work into the design spin.<br>
<br>
I think it's fairly presumptuous to suggest chucking all that stuff in<br>
favour of something that doesn't even *exist* yet.<br>
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> F20 improved spins overall, but that was because of a concerted effort<br>
> with our existing resources. If Fedora.next is going to succeed,<br>
> those resources are already going to be overwhelmed with the 3<br>
> products.<br>
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Again, there is no 'burden' on QA due to spins.</div></blockquote></div><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">As a user of Fedora I like to say that Fedora spins give so much value to Fedora. <br>I know a lot of people who use spins rather than the default Gnome-desktop-Live.<br>
Please don't gutter the spins !<br></div></div>