<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">Hello,<br>2014-03-04 15:32 GMT+01:00 Jaroslav Reznik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jreznik@redhat.com" target="_blank">jreznik@redhat.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">= Proposed System Wide Change: cron to systemd time units =<br>
<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cron-to-systemd-time-units" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cron-to-systemd-time-units</a><br>
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== Scope ==<br></blockquote><div><br>(Everyone), please keep the explicit "Proposal owners"/"other developers"/"release engineering"/"policies and guidelines" split. Other contributors <i>need</i> to know what they are being asked to do by your Change.<br>
<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">* Policies and guidelines:<br></blockquote></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
** Adjust packaging guidelines to mention migration of cron jobs to timer<br>
units for packages that already depend on systemd<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Last time this was discussed in <a href="http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-06/fesco.2013-02-06-18.00.log.html">http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-06/fesco.2013-02-06-18.00.log.html</a> , there were concerns about "confusion of users/admins", specifically referring to the disabling a .service / disabling a .socket duality. So we will need packaging guidelines not only for the migration, but for the timer units themselves.<br>
<br></div><div>(From the Change page:)<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Administrators will have better time trigger in units compared to
cron jobs like for example when administrator stops a service/daemon the
timer unit will stop as well etc.
</blockquote></div><div>This would also seem to require detailed packaging guidelines for the timer units.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
* Fix spec files in packages that are not applicable for migration [Fix Cron<br>
Dependency Tracking Bug 2]<br>
* Review and migrate if applicable cron jobs shipped in packages that already<br>
depend on systemd [Timer Migration Tracking Bug 3]<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How many packages (at least an of magnitude) are we talking about? Is it the 16+3 that are currently blocking the tracker bugs?<br></div>
<div> Mirek<br></div></div><br></div></div>