<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 December 2014 at 17:57, john.tiger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john.tigernassau@gmail.com" target="_blank">john.tigernassau@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Obviously priority is now on F21 bugs but looking beyond that<br>
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I want to work with someone more knowledgeable on power consumption - it stinks on Fedora 20.<br>
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OSX on mac air gets 11-12 hrs Fedora gets 4<br>
Chrome OS on Chromebook gets 9-10 Fedora gets about 6<br>
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Tried powertop - see slight improvement.<br>
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Guys at ARCH claim with powerdown scripts they get close to 11 on Mac Air - that's good<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would test it first before you go by their word. There are a lot of things which can be done to make power consumption better.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
So we need to get the powerdown scripts to work well with Fedora. I have no idea how much conversion, if any is needed for Fedora - just don't have the knowledge of processes, Fedora scripts, etc. But willing to help out, test, etc. (I want 11 hrs on my Mac Air !).</blockquote><div><br></div><div>OK, a couple of things. Fedora sub-projects work well when the following happens:<br></div><div><br></div><div>1) A problem is identified.</div><div>2) Profile the problem and show where it might be happening.</div><div>3) Some amount on fixing the problem is done.</div><div>4) Find that the problem isn't there and there is no quick fix.</div><div>5) Throw away that solution and implement another one.</div><div>6) Deal with flame wars about any and all changes during this from people the problem doesn't occur to.</div><div><br></div><div>Projects which use words like "we" before 3 or 4 usually never get to 3 or 4 due to the amount of "why is your problem now my work?" response from everyone from developers to random people on the lists. </div><div><br></div><div>Currently you are at 1, and you have tried to jump to 3 with the Arch solution. You need to profile the Arch solution to see if it really works or if it only works if you run an X11/twm and nothing fancier than Mosaic from 1997. [Or without X11 at all.. that is the usual way to get a large power improvement on a laptop.] From that you can say "Yes it actually fixed things and I was doing what I was doing in regular Fedora but the laptop lasted 11 hours versus 4." Then you can start working on seeing if the scripts can be implemented in Fedora somewhere.</div></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Stephen J Smoogen.<br><br></div></div>
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