<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-03-18 18:51 GMT+01:00 Ralf Corsepius <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rc040203@freenet.de" target="_blank">rc040203@freenet.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 03/18/2015 05:46 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:<br>
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Hi<br>
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote:<br>
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What I don't understand is the wisdom of an official Fedora<br>
"product" endorsing a copr when either the software or packaging (or<br>
both) is not of sufficient quality to make it into the official<br>
Fedora repo.<br>
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I don't think of it as a endorsement.<br>
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I see them as a means of discouraging people from packaging for Fedora:<br>
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Ask yourself: "Why should I package a package properly, when I can get off 'cheap'?" - msuchy's rationale is along this line.<span class=""><br>
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It is making them more easily<br>
discoverable but there is going to be a prompt of some sort that warns<br>
them of the nature of such software and users get to choose whether they<br>
are willing to accept that tradeoff for immediate access. One might<br>
choose to use say, Chromium regardless of the bundling issues for example.<br>
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There are many more ways why a package not to be eligible for Fedora than "bundling":<br>
- Illegal/patent-encumbered in the US, but legal to distribute in other countries.<br>
- Legal to distribute binaries, repackaged for "packager lazyness", (e.g. Java) or complexity (foreign arch binaries needed to support cross-toolchains).<br>
- Content-only packages (Videos, Audiofiles).<br>
- Packages with ethical/political controversial contents.<br>
...<br>
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In other words, if you are really serious about this plan, you need some authority to continuously review the packages in such "endorsed" repos, technically, legally and "politically".<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>
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<br></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The idea of use disabled-third-party-repos to ship non free software has been discused in the desktop list, this for example<br><br><a href="https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-February/011634.html">https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-February/011634.html</a><br><br></div><div>In fact, in the last meeting of the Workstation WG, one of the action items is:<br><br><pre>* Third party repositories (stickster, 15:41:18)
* LINK:
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Summary_table">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Summary_table</a>
is interesting. (stickster, 15:48:12)
* LINK: <a href="https://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium/">https://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium/</a> , F21 last
updated in january (kalev, 16:08:47)
* LINK:
<a href="https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/churchyard/chromium-russianfedora/">https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/churchyard/chromium-russianfedora/</a>
is the other i was thinking of (jwb, 16:09:29)
* AGREED: Go for Chrome next (stickster, 16:15:39)
* ACTION: cschalle stickster work up justification for Council and
review gnome-software text for an appropriate warning to suggest
(stickster, 16:16:12)
<br></pre>**Go for Chrome next.** <br></div><div><br></div><div>Here is the full text.<br></div><div><br><a href="https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-March/011722.html">https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-March/011722.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I said in my first message that the purpose of the Change is to help people to install non-free software. Probably I was wrong and there are legitimate uses. Anyway what is true is that *some people* wants to use this Change to make it easy to install non-free software.<br><br><br><br></div><div>Sergio</div><div> </div></div></div></div>