<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style='font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;'>Le Mer 19 août 2015 18:22, Rex Dieter a écrit :<br>> Kevin Fenzi wrote:<br>><br>>> * Matt opened a thread on the marketing list about renaming rawhide. It<br>>> sounds like most people would prefer us to make the changes first,<br>>> then and only then look at renaming.<br>><br>> s/renaming/rebranding/<br>><br>> I personally would prefer the name be preserved if at all possible, but if<br>> the marketing gurus feel otherwise, so be it.<br><br><i>I doubt anyone will be fooled by a name change, what matters is the actual<br>state of the repository not naming tricks. All renaming will win us is<br>lots of internet pages stating newname = rawhide and repeating baby eating<br>anecdotes. So actually counter productive, the new name will start with<br>all the historical badwill (because that's the easy reporting part) and<br>none of the recent improvements.<br></i><br>I think this is why we should focus on the state of rawhide first as Kevin said. Then, when Fedora, as a project, has<br>something that we want to drive adoption/usage of, re-branding can bring the attention and focus in. I don't think this an either/or scenario, just<br>a matter of not putting the cart before the horse.<br><br><br><i>Good reputation must be earned, magical tricks do not work (even lavishly<br>funded renaming marketing campaigns have little effect, the best one can<br>do is to acquire a brand with lots of goodwill and try to subsume another<br>in it).<br><br><br></i>The Fedora next evolution really seems to have made an increase in users and community. It's part of why I'm here.<br>Having an improved rawhide shows that Fedora isn't standing pat. But like you said, the product has to live up to<br>the rebranding message.<br><br>Regards,<br>Zach <br>#aikidouke<br><br></div></body></html>