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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/14/2015 12:04 PM, Adam Williamson
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<pre wrap="">On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 12:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
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<pre wrap="">and much more important:
if Fedora changes to more and more recommend "pip", "gem" and "cpan"
like installs instead RPM packages it is no longer a distribution
over the long because that would mean finally you have a core OS and
handle anything else like Microsoft or Apple - does anybody really want to
go that road?
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<pre wrap="">I do. Yes. Or rather, I'd say we're already doing this, we're just not
clear that we *know* it.
....
And of course there is the brave new world of containers. There is
currently no 'official' way (so far as I'm aware) to deploy containers
on Fedora: absolutely everyone who's running Fedora as a container
host OS is working entirely outside the lines of the distribution-as-
software-provider.
So do we still believe we're not doing this already?
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I take your point that an orthodox base system approach is not
sufficient. What I am worried about, though, is the plethora of
solutions we are considering to address that: package-specific
installers, bundling, containers, Composer, secondary repos like
Fusion and COPR, and I am sure I forgot something else. It just
screams 'combinatorial explosion', with red carpet and a big neon
saying 'combinatorial explosion' over it.<br>
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It's great that we have a discussion about which approach is best,
but I think we should try to pick _something_, rather than giving up
and welcoming all of them. Of course, at the moment it's entirely
unclear and premature to decide, but I believe that at least we
should recognize that "there should be only one" eventually.<br>
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