<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Jonathan Underwood <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonathan.underwood@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonathan.underwood@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":c4" class="a3s" style="overflow:hidden">I think it is to some extent a question of what we are QA'ing for. As<br>
I see it (and I may be in the minority), the QA process is a process<br>
put in place to ensure the *install and live media* function<br>
correctly, and produce a working installed system from which the user<br>
can move forward with updates. </div></blockquote></div><br>Exactly. The purpose of the install and live media is to have a system that functions. Regarding the 500+ updates... No one is forcing you to update your system - and if you do, as another person pointed out, deltarpms will reduce the amount of bandwidth required. If you wait for updates to stop before you decide to go GA, you're going to be waiting forever. Additionally, artificially manipulating the process more than it already is serves no real purpose. It just adds additional work with no real benefit. Eventually there are going to be updates. This seems to me about coming up with additional arbitrary criteria for a system that by its nature is always going to be arbitrary. I think there are more pressing issues and better ways for the community to spend it's resources. </div></div>