Fwd: Live ISOs that don't fit on CDs

[Toshio Kuratomi]

I have a couple comments inside the forwarded message:

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:19:28AM +1000, Ruediger Landmann wrote:
> We're going to need to keep an eye on this issue -- if the F13 live 
> image will no longer fit on a CD, we need to note it in the RN, plus 
> other docs too (readme-live-image, readme-burning-isos, 
> installation-quick-start-guide, at least)
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Live ISOs that don't fit on CDs
> Date: 	Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:33:10 -0500
> From: 	Christopher Beland <beland at alum.mit.edu>
> Reply-To: 	For testers of Fedora development releases 
> <test at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> To: 	test at lists.fedoraproject.org
> 
> 
> 
> So in the process of triaging Bug 557958, I have found a user with an
> interest in lobbying against the decision to allow Live ISOs that are
> too large to burn to CD.  (They can't boot off USB or DVD, and I think
> is experiencing a bug with their network install.)
> 
> I'm not questioning the decision, but as more people discover that
> things are too big to burn onto CD, it would be helpful to have
> someplace to point them.
> 
> After poking around a bit in mailing list archives, I couldn't find any
> official announcement, nor did I find the reference which I think which
> was on this mailing list where I first learned about this myself.  Does
> anyone know which group made this decision, and if there's an official
> reasoning?  (Or for that matter if there's still a chance that it might
> be reversed.)
> 
AFAIK, it was only announced on the fedora-desktop list near the beginning
of the development cycle.  I could just not be remembering it being
announced in other places but other people weren't able to find reference
elsewhere either.

> It might be helpful to update:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD
> 
> with some explanation, for example:
> 
> * The vast majority of users can boot off USB, if not DVD, and so are
> not affected by the change.  The larger size better serves the majority
> by providing the software that most people need in a Live distribution.
> * Non-Live installation methods are still available on CD, including
> network install from a minimal image, or offline install from multiple
> CDs.
> * Users that can only boot off CD but still need a Live distribution can
> use Revisor and published kickstart files to slim down the official
> spins to include only the software they actually need.
> 
I believe that only the Fedora Desktop Live media is now larger than a CD.
The Fedora KDE spin, for instance, still fits on a CD for F-13.  So getting
a different spin from spins.fedoraproject.org is another thing to document
(may be easier than making your own custom spin.)

-Toshio
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