Firewalld

Pete Travis me at petetravis.com
Tue Aug 26 19:22:54 UTC 2014


On 08/26/2014 09:43 AM, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 03:40:10PM -0600, Pete Travis wrote:
> > On 08/25/2014 02:17 PM, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 01:13:46PM -0600, Pete Travis wrote:
> >>> Here's my idea:  In the security guide, give an overview, instructions
> >>> on how to lock down to deny-all, general instructions on adding back,
> >>> and link out to the Networking Guide. In the NG, give a full
> overview -
> >>> network security should be an inherent part of network configuration.
> >>> In others, include the command to open a port for the service being
> >>> documented where appropriate.
> >>
> >> I really dislike the idea of spreading information out into different
> >> guides.  Users think they've got the entire story only to miss another
> >> aspect elsewhere.
> >>
> > Right, it's the spreading out that bothers me too. Service config here,
> > network config here, firewall config there.  I *don't* like the idea of
> > managing similar content in different places, though.  The wiki doesn't
> > really fix that problem; includes work there just as well as in docbook,
> > there's just a broader scope.  There are valid concerns about the
> > administrative overhead of our publishing stack, vs the 'just write'
> > ethos of a wiki - but I think that even with a wiki we would need to
> > have discussions about structure and scope.
>
> So how about this...  Instead of having these big, fat guides that
> contain a lot of information on a lot of different topics, we start
> breaking down these guides into smaller chunks.  Think "Firewall
> Guide" which would talk specifically about iptables and firewalld. 
> They likely would be less work to maintain (although there would be
> more of them) since, potentially, it would have less stuff to deal with.
>
> -- Eric
>
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> Eric "Sparks" Christensen
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>
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I like it. More manageable chunks sounds.. more manageable. Until we get
to the part where you have to read the httpd guide to set up a web
server, then the SELinux guide for file contexts for a web server, then
the firewall guide for firewall rules for a webserver - or we maintain
the same content in different guides and try to keep track of it all.
Yeah, I know you're saying "start here", but I think we've come back
around to the question about most suitable formats.

The idea of modularized documentation is *really* appealing, but the
actual implementation isn't going to come for free.  Will
publican/docbook work? What formats would enable the built-for-purpose
articles that Dylan is envisioning?  We should explore some
possibilities before putting in the work to migrate the copy into new books.

( He says, hoping the conversation doesn't die there )

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-- Pete Travis
 - Fedora Docs Project Leader
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