RFC: Wiki Gardening... it's time to pull up the weeds

Pete Travis me at petetravis.com
Fri Jun 20 19:12:00 UTC 2014


On Jun 20, 2014 9:20 AM, "Eric H. Christensen" <sparks at fedoraproject.org>
wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:12:19AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:33:36AM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
> > > 1. Immediately move the oldest 2460 pages to Archive: and remove their
> > > categories.
> >
> > This makes me a little bit worried. What if there is valuable but
basically
> > unchanged information there?
> >
> > I agree that cleanup is necessary, but this seems dangerous.
>

This might sound callous, but can you think of a better way to find out if
something is important than to take it away?  If it's that old, and someone
wants to use the info, it probably needs to be updated anyway.

> I seriously doubt that there is any valuable information on the wiki that
is that old.  That said, we're moving things to Archive: and not deleting
the pages for that exact reason.  It's trivial to move a page back from
Archive:.
>

I agree with this categorically, but want to be clear:  I fully intend to
delete pages that obviously have no value.  Things like unused templates,
dead pages with categories and no content, etc can go away without process
or discussion.  For example, one of the top hits on my "special:old pages"
was a list of packages maintained by Jose Matos (he's a good natured sort,
so I'll pick on him :) at some indeterminate point in the past.  Nobody
cares.  We have better places to convey this info now.

We should of course err on the side if caution when considering actual
*deletion* - but if the community is uncomfortable with our judgement on
the matter, they should get involved.
Leaving everything as-is for fear of disappointing a few people isn't an
acceptable strategy anymore.

> The end goal, here, is to reduce the amount of "stuff" on the wiki to
improve the search functionality thus making it easier for the more useful
stuff to be more readily found.
>
> - -- Eric
>

--Pete
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