<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Yes, it was time.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Keep the archives for 14 months and then purge. If there was good stuff that needed keeping, those who referred to it regularly will vocally</span> scream loud enough as to wake the dead. Why 14 months? Some people only refer to some stuff annually, as if they
are doing their annual income tax.<br></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><span style="" lang="FR-CA">Regards</span> <div><b><font size="2"><br></font><font size="2"> Leslie</font><br></b></div> <div><font color="green"><b><font size="1">Mr. Leslie Satenstein</font></b></font><font style="color:rgb(191, 0, 95);" color="green" size="1"><span style="font-weight:bold;"></span></font><br></div><font color="green" size="2"><b>SENT FROM MY OPEN SOURCE LINUX SYSTEM.</b><br></font><br><font face="lucida console, sans-serif" size="1"><b><font color="black"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:13.5pt;color:black;"></span></font></b></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size:
10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Pete Travis <me@petetravis.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> For participants of the Documentation Project <docs@lists.fedoraproject.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 20, 2014 3:12 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: RFC: Wiki Gardening... it's time to pull up the weeds<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8280016578"><div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">
On Jun 20, 2014 9:20 AM, "Eric H. Christensen" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sparks@fedoraproject.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:sparks@fedoraproject.org">sparks@fedoraproject.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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> > > 1. Immediately move the oldest 2460 pages to Archive: and remove their<br clear="none">
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> > This makes me a little bit worried. What if there is valuable but basically<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">This might sound callous, but can you think of a better way to find out if something is important than to take it away? If it's that old, and someone wants to use the info, it probably needs to be updated anyway. </div>
<div dir="ltr">> I seriously doubt that there is any valuable information on the wiki that is that old. That said, we're moving things to Archive: and not deleting the pages for that exact reason. It's trivial to move a page back from Archive:.<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">I agree with this categorically, but want to be clear: I fully intend to delete pages that obviously have no value. Things like unused templates, dead pages with categories and no content, etc can go away without process or discussion. For example, one of the top hits on my "special:old pages" was a list of packages maintained by Jose Matos (he's a good natured sort, so I'll pick on him :) at some indeterminate point in the past. Nobody cares. We have better places to convey this info now.</div>
<div dir="ltr">We should of course err on the side if caution when considering actual *deletion* - but if the community is uncomfortable with our judgement on the matter, they should get involved.<br clear="none">
Leaving everything as-is for fear of disappointing a few people isn't an acceptable strategy anymore.</div>
<div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv8280016578yqt5107366255" id="yiv8280016578yqtfd73229">> The end goal, here, is to reduce the amount of "stuff" on the wiki to improve the search functionality thus making it easier for the more useful stuff to be more readily found.<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">--Pete</div></div></div><br><div class="yqt5107366255" id="yqtfd64509">-- <br clear="none">docs mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:docs@lists.fedoraproject.org" href="mailto:docs@lists.fedoraproject.org">docs@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br clear="none">To unsubscribe:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/docs" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/docs</a></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </blockquote><div></div> </div></body></html>