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<br>than "Re: Contents of Fedora-education-list digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Thinking about Thinking and about Educational<br> Commerce--Interviews with Stephen Downes and Larry Augustin
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hargadon@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Thinking about Thinking and about Educational<br> Commerce--Interviews with Stephen Downes and Larry Augustin<br>To: "Fedora Education Initiative" <<a href="mailto:fedora-education-list@redhat.com">
fedora-education-list@redhat.com</a>>,<br> <a href="mailto:k12opensource@googlegroups.com">k12opensource@googlegroups.com</a>, "EDTECH - Educational Technology"<br> <<a href="mailto:EDTECH@h-net.msu.edu">
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<br><br><a href="http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/StephenDownes.mp3">http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/StephenDownes.mp3</a><br><a href="http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/StephenDownes.ogg">
http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/StephenDownes.ogg</a><br><br><a href="http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/LarryAugustin.mp3">http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/LarryAugustin.mp3
</a><br><a href="http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/LarryAugustin.ogg">http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/LarryAugustin.ogg</a><br><br>While it becomes clear that Stephen Downes and I have different
<br>experiences and different opinions, my interview with him was quite<br>fascinating and also illustrative of a principle about blogging and<br>podcasting that I have been thinking about quite a bit lately.<br><br>Will Richardson has written and said many times that blogging starts
<br>with reading. What that means to me is that when I read other blogs, I<br>am exposed to someone else's ideas, and it starts a creative process<br>where I think about what they have written and can agree, disagree, or<br>
expand on their thoughts. Like Doc Searls says, blogging can be like<br>tossing a snowball downhill--if an idea starts to gain speed, it will<br>grow and expand, building on the original idea kernel. The magic of<br>blogging is that it seems to allow for diverse and multiple voices to
<br>quickly combine and create innovative, compelling, feedback-rich<br>threads of thought. So for me, blogging is ultimately about thinking,<br>and I love thinking.<br><br>The interview with Stephen provided me with a lot of opportunity for
<br>thinking, and largely because he and I come from fairly different<br>perspectives. Since two of my four children have had some<br>homeschooling, you'll hear me try to mitigate what I think are some of<br>the common perceptions about homeschoolers/homeschooling. But the
<br>issue that really has lingered with me for some days is the discussion<br>on commercial companies and the educational system.<br><br>Granted, folks in Canada are probably more used to government-run<br>solutions than we in the States, but it sorrows me to think--if
<br>Stephen is representative--that we have determined that the form and<br>function of for-profit businesses forces them to make decisions which<br>are not in the interests of anyone but themselves. I guess it sorrows<br>
me because it has partly become true, but also because we largely<br>don't seem to be able to see beyond some current mindsets about<br>business. There was a time when we really admired certain companies<br>(HP and the "HP Way," for example), and in my mind it's been a long 15
<br>years during which individual stock-trading seems to created a mindset<br>that values only quarterly profits--and believes that profit is the<br>one measure that benefits everyone.<br><br>Another sad trend in the commercial marketplace over same period of
<br>time has been the use of "lock-in" as a customer strategy. Granted, as<br>customers demand lower prices and more value, "lock-in" looks<br>attractive to the supplier because of the costs of marketing and
<br>acquiring customers is hard to shoulder on a single low-cost<br>transaction--but it has given the proprietary software industry a<br>pretty bad reputation in some areas, and deservedly so. Placing an<br>emphasis on "lock-in" seems to directly minimize the effort to create
<br>a satisfied customer who continues doing business because of their<br>positive experiences. Is there an alternative to "lock-in" when<br>customers want more and more, but to pay less and less?<br><br>There is a fascinating opportunity for discussion here, especially in
<br>light of the other interview I want to point out, one I recorded with<br>Larry Augustin on the business of Open Source, who is an angel<br>investor and is on the board of a number of companies based on Open<br>Source software. Because Free and Open Source software is so much at
<br>the heart of both the Internet and Web 2.0, it might seem that some of<br>the core values of the movement would make their way back into the<br>business world. Google may, in many ways, be the great test case of<br>this, with their "don't be evil" motto, the general trust people place
<br>in them, and their willingness to give away services. But with<br>increasing power and information will come the temptations and<br>pressures to create financial gain in areas where there won't be<br>general public agreement as to how Google should act. Can they keep to
<br>a high road and satisfy all their constituencies? It will be<br>interesting to watch.<br><br>Some questions:<br><br> * Do we believe that companies operate only on the pursuit of<br>selfish interests? That would obviously be too broad a generalization,
<br>but Stephen gives the impression that no for-profit companies can be<br>trusted.<br> * Do we think that a free market, even with the problems we see<br>today, ultimately produces the best long-term result?<br> * While many talk about "selfish interest" being the driving force
<br>behind a free-market economy, might we not argue that "choice" and the<br>freedom to make choices is just as compelling a rationale for the free<br>market, and a better framework for providing moral guidance?
<br> * Is a government bureaucracy, like the one Stephen describes to<br>handle all school purchases, just as likely to produce negative<br>results as the free market? What would be lost with centralized<br>decision-making and what would be gained?
<br> * Is there an alternative to commercial marketing to schools? Does<br>the shilling of educational technology at trade show exhibition halls<br>help or hurt schools and students?<br> * Does it ultimately come down to just being a good/informed consumer?
<br> * What companies have you dealt with in the school market that<br>have been "purpose-driven" or are ones that you trust? Are there many,<br>or are there few?<br><br>These, and other interviews, can be downloaded or listened to directly
<br>at <a href="http://edtechlive.wikispaces.com/Recordings+List">http://edtechlive.wikispaces.com/Recordings+List</a><br><br>--<br>Steve Hargadon<br><a href="mailto:steve@hargadon.com">steve@hargadon.com</a><br>916-899-1400 direct
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