vote on PRD

[Marcela Mašláňová]

On 01/17/2014 10:28 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 04:13:31PM +0100, Tadej Janež wrote:
>> On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 14:08 +0100, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
>>> On 01/17/2014 11:56 AM, Tadej Janež wrote:
>>>>
>>>> However, we still need to answer the question: "What goals does the
>>>> Environment and Stacks Working Group have for the Software Collections?"
>>>> In other words, how will Software Collections (and further work on them)
>>>> fulfil the mission of packaging, testing and delivering the various
>>>> existing and new software stacks in Fedora?
>>>>
>>> I can cut the proposal of SCL to provide scl-utils in Fedora as a
>>> possibility to provide SCLs. But that's not what other products
>>> dependent on SCLs wanted.
>>
>> Hmm, I don't understand what you meant here?
>>
>> I worked on improving the wording of the SCL section but I didn't put it
>> in, since some people already voted on the PRD.
>>
>> Here is the new version:
>> === SCLs ===
>> Software Collections (SCLs) are a technology that enables one to build
>> and concurrently install multiple versions of the same software
>> components on a given system. They also have no impact on the system
>> versions of the packages installed by any of the conventional RPM
>> package management utilities. As such, SCLs will be useful for providing
>> various (incompatible) versions of software stacks in Fedora. The goals
>> which our WG has with SCLs are the following:
>>
>> * Work on getting SCLs into Fedora so they can be used by Fedora
>> Products.
>> ** Example: Fedora Cloud is a product that often depends on a specific
>> version of Ruby, so it will benefit from having a means for providing
>> the required version of Ruby via a SCL.
>> ** Status: Getting SCLs into Fedora is in progress and pending the
>> approval of the [[Packaging_Committee|Fedora Packaging Committee]]. Most
>> probably each SCL will be added into Fedora as a system-wide change.
>>
>> * Cooperate with the SCL Upstream on enabling Fedora users to install
>> and use the SCLs provided by the SCL Upstream. This will extend the
>> number and diversity of software stacks available to Fedora users.
>> ** Status: SCL Upstream is almost finished and ready for launch.
>>
>> * [https://fedorahosted.org/SoftwareCollections/ scl-utils] is a set of
>> utilities that allows one to package, build and run SCLs. We will
>> cooperate with the scl-utils upstream to incorporate the requirements
>> that will arise when we make SCLs available in Fedora.
>> ** Status: scl-utils is in maintenance mode, scl-utils2 might contain
>> bigger changes.
>>
>> I hope this makes it in, but I vote +1 regardless.
>>
>
> I like this but I'd make some changes:
>
> === SCLs ===
> Software Collections (SCLs) are a technology that enables one to build
> and concurrently install multiple versions of the same software
> components on a given system. They also have no impact on the system
> versions of the packages installed by any of the conventional RPM
> package management utilities. As such, SCLs will be useful for providing
> various (incompatible) versions of software stacks in Fedora. The goals
> which our WG has with SCLs are the following:
>
> * Work to make SCLs usable by Fedora Products.
> ** Example: Fedora Cloud is a product that often depends on a specific
>     version of Ruby, so it will benefit from having a means for providing
>     the required version of Ruby via a SCL.
> ** Get SCLs into the Fedora Mainstream Repository
> *** Status: Packaging Guidelines are being reviewed and revised by the
>      [[Packaging_Committee|Fedora Packaging Committee]]. Most probably each
>      SCL will have a review step similar to a system-wide Fedora Change.
> ** Create a second repository for SCLs that do not following Fedora
>     Packaging Guidelines
> *** Cooperate with the SCL Upstream on enabling Fedora users to install
>      and use the SCLs provided by the SCL Upstream. This will extend the
>      number and diversity of software stacks available to Fedora users.
> **** Status: SCL Upstream is almost finished and ready for launch.  Need to
>       work with FESCo, SCL Upstream, and write code to make these
>       repositories easy to enable
> *** Work with FESCo to see if we can make some subset of those repositories
>      direcly installable by the Fedora Products.
> *** If not, then figure out if we need SCLs that are not Fedora compliant
>      that are directly installable by the Products.
>
> [sclutils section would remain as you wrote it]
>
>
> Regardless, I don't see anything wrong with the section as written in the
> draft; it's just not as detailed as to the strategy to take as this is.
>
> +1
>
> -Toshio
>
>
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Great job guys. Thanks.

Feel free to update it in PRD.

So I guess we have majority of votes for acceptance. I sent a mail to 
other people, who didn't vote yet, but no reply yet.

Marcela