<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Ye Myat Kaung <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mavjs@fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">mavjs@fedoraproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi folks,<br>
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Following are the logs from FAmSCO TownHall. Please do take your time<br>
to go through them if you missed the townhall.<br>
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Minutes: <a href="http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2012-11-28/famsco_townhall.2012-11-28-16.00.html" target="_blank">http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2012-11-28/famsco_townhall.2012-11-28-16.00.html</a><br>
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Minutes (text):<br>
<a href="http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2012-11-28/famsco_townhall.2012-11-28-16.00.txt" target="_blank">http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2012-11-28/famsco_townhall.2012-11-28-16.00.txt</a><br>
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Log: <a href="http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2012-11-28/famsco_townhall.2012-11-28-16.00.log.html" target="_blank">http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2012-11-28/famsco_townhall.2012-11-28-16.00.log.html</a><br>
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Have a great day folks! :)<br>
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<br>> <b class="TOPIC"> Q1: Of late, there's been a lot of work going on to try
and improve our framework for reimbursements and sponsorship. A few
years back, we had community architecture, that would help with this. Do
you think it worked better when CA was around? (it's no longer active
as far as I know)</b><span class="TOPIC"><br></span><br clear="all">Can't answer this one, I wasn't around back then<br><br>> <b class="TOPIC">Q2. Do you think amabassadors need to be part of other
teams in the project? Should we put processes in place to facilitate
their involvement in other teams?</b><br><br>Well, that depends. If an ambassador is also skilled in development, for example, they should double as developers. I don't think we really need special processes for that.<br>
<br>> <b class="TOPIC">Q3. About fedora events that ambassadors hold: how
frequently do you organize/attend these, and what is the goal: to get
work done, or to meet new users and speak about fedora. What should the
goals of the events be? Is funding justified for events where no work is
done?<br><br></b><span class="TOPIC">We rarely organize our own events over here, I think that both types of events are important, but priority for funding should be given to events in which we can get work done - if possible.<br>
Events that are funded by Fedora should have clear goals and ways to measure these goals, so we can later see if they were effective enough.<br><br><br>></span><span class="TOPIC"><b class="TOPIC">Q5. Considering funding can also go to events where
there are only talks,presentation, do you think this is a waste of
funding or another opportunity to get new contributors?</b> <br></span><br>I don't think it's a waste of funding, especially when the talks include "how to contribute" section. Even when there are talks, once there are Fedora ambassadors in the crowd and plenty of new users/contributors/potential users - talks could be really important. They could inspire people, and excite them. A good talk can be a reason for someone to ask you "how can I help".<br>
<br>> <b class="TOPIC">Q6. Do you think the ambassadors sig is doing their
part as one of the largest fedora sub teams? For instance, during
release, devel, design, mktg, QA, docs and more are up to their necks in
work. What are the ambassadors doing at this time?</b> <span class="details"><br><br>Ambassadors don't do enough in that field, in my opinion. Before releases, we should organize more local (real-world) test days, for example. This is specifically important for non-English speaking countries, where localization bugs may appear. Doing real world test days (in a physical location, with experienced ambassadors to help users filing bugs) is just one example on how Ambassadors can help make new releases better.<br>
<br>Also, if one of your local users tests a pre-release alone, make sure to ask them to report bugs. If they are too inexperienced to do it themselves, either guide them or file the bug for them, and contact relevant developers to help get it fixed. When a bug reported by a new user is fixed, said user will usually feel very good about it - because they actually helped. The road from that to filing bugs themselves or contributing in other fields is not long. <br>
<br>> </span><b class="TOPIC">Q7. what can we do to gain new contributors in countries that currently only have very little?</b><br><br>More events, for starters. Also, consider attending not only computer-related conferences to represent Fedora: you will find a lot of potential contributors in the educational sector and in geeky sci-fi conferences. When you make a Fedora specific event, make sure to advertise it in every possible way: local FOSS community mailing lists, local computer-geek forums, and for any other crowd that you think might be interested in attending the event.<br>
When in a Fedora booth in a conference, make sure to emphasize that everyone can contribute and that contribution is easy.<br><br>Another thing that might help gaining more contributors might be convincing some experienced developer/ambassador/contributor from other country to attend a conference in your country and give a talk. This will make people feel the project respects their country and is an excellent way to show how global and diverse the project is.<br>
<br><br>Again, sorry for missing the townhall,<br>-- <br><div dir="ltr">-Elad Alfassa.</div><br>
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