[Fedora-spins] Board SWG questions for Spins Owners

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 16:38:08 +0000,
  Matt Domsch <matt at domsch.com> wrote:
> I ran into this just this week too. Isohybrid script is pretty small and could be re-written in C by someone who passed C 101 in a day or so I'd think. 

Maybe a request should be made to Fedora Engineering Services?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:08:06 
> To: The Spin Special Interest Group mailing list<spins at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-spins] Board SWG questions for Spins Owners
> 
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> wrote:
> > Christoph Wickert (christoph.wickert at googlemail.com) said:
> >> > > > The first is a policy issue that could be redressed. The second is
> >> > > > unlikely to change (and would imply you'd be signing up to write your
> >> > > > own if you didn't want to use anaconda/firstboot, which I can't imagine
> >> > > > is what you want), and the third probably requires patch submissions.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > (Note: due to the requirements for a window manager at installation
> >> > > > time, anaconda may very well require metacity in the near future.)
> >> > >
> >> > > Why not a virtual provide and let the spin maintainers and users decide?
> >> > > In F12 we changed anaconda to use any display manager that has a virtual
> >> > > provides for "service(graphical-login)" instead of hardcoding a list of
> >> > > display managers. We should do the same for window manager.
> >> >
> >> > anaconda, firstboot, and whatever would need a mechanism to start
> >> > random-window-manager of the day and adjust the configuration as needed.
> >> > If that's important to people, they should submit patches.
> >>
> >> It is not random but defined by the user or maintainer. All the spins
> >> except the Desktop Spin already (have to) configure
> >> /etc/sysconfig/desktop.
> >
> > Getting arbitrary things into the anaconda image isn't trivial - it involves
> > explicitly listing packages and files to use. firstboot's a little better,
> > as it's actually working on an installed system. As I said, if you or others have
> > interest in making this possible, the way to start is with patches or patch proposals.
> > Get all the WMs that people might want for this providing something that can
> > automatically determine the command to run. Make sure that they all do the
> > right thing without needing random arguments passed to them. Then work
> > from there with patches to apps.
> 
> I would like to see it support at least mutter, not sure that this
> should be too hard as its based on metacity anyway. For a gnome-shell
> based gnome or Mobline/Meego it seems a little overkill having
> metacity and deps just for install.
> 
> I'd also like to see the removal of the requirement of perl (via perl
> scripts in syslinux) as it added about 10% to the F-12 test LiveCDs I
> did off Moblin. Anaconda uses a single of these scripts and only for
> the creation of hybrid boot cds (see bugs 544136 and 559644 ), This is
> also relevant for the Sugar on a Stick spin as well. Its the last dep
> remaining on perl in both those spins (and I suspect the desktop spins
> as well).
> 
> Peter
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