Stephen <br><br>Forums are the primary source of feedback/discussion/help for most people. Forums are THE main support mechanism for almost all software unless they have live phone/IM tech support. Which of course normally doesn't exist for free software such as Fedora. Firefox has an interesting experiment going on with IM support and I'm fairly impressed with it so far. So fedoraforums is THE place to get support for most users. . As for the best answer again Fedoraforums on many subjects contains THE best answer to a commonly faced problem. The FAQs are updated far more often than even the docs wiki and provide more workable solutions in many cases. Fedoraforums.org deserves better treatment from Fedora than it has gotten. <br>
<br>There are things about all distros that make you grind your teeth in frustration and if they aggravate you enough people generally change distro or write their own solution and fairly often that solution gets pulled into the upstream if enough people adopt it or at worst become commonly used. Fedora lacks any facility to send upstream feedback. Lacks any feedback mechanism at all. It is true Microsoft has managed to repeatedly incur the wrath of it's user base and survived, at least for now. As more people discover Linux and the popularity of Mac's smaller devices replaces PCs for many people the age of Microsoft may well be nearing an end. Microsoft is the exception not the role model for how to do business. Even Microsoft if a high enough percentage of it's user base screams will eventually hear and change what it's doing. Fedora is completely deaf to user feedback. <br>
<br>Yes I'm unhappy with Fedora. I'm exploring various distros right now. I have even been putting out feelers to see if there's enough interest in forking off Fedora. Gotten lots of interest from end users but almost none from developers unfortunately. However that's not the point. <br>
<br>RedHat has been critical for the advancement of Linux since the days of RH5. The loss of RedHat would be a devastating blow to the Linux community and if RedHat doesn't start listening to it's user base it's demise is most assured. It won't be tomorrow, it'll take years for the fallout to eventually show up but when it does the momentum will be impossible to reverse. I'd really hate to see that and what distro I'm using really doesn't matter. The loss of the drivers DB alone would harm the Linux world. Drivers are by far the biggest obstacle to wider Linux use and RedHat is the biggest source of drivers for the Linux community. So no matter what distro I use RedHat's well being is an important consideration for me. <br>
<br>No this is not the correct place to discuss this, the problem is there IS NO good place to put comments like this. NO POSSIBLE WAY TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO THE FEDORA PROJECT. That IS THE PROBLEM. Fedora has no interest in it or Infrastructure would be the group tasked with the interface for the feedback. The actual feedback itself would be sent upstream for filtering and consideration. <br>
<br>I've raised this topic in forums and other formats and I am FAR from alone in my feelings on this. I speak for many when I say these things. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:smooge@gmail.com">smooge@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:58, Draciron Smith <<a href="mailto:draciron@gmail.com">draciron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora</a><br>
> Go down to support options. Under forum it links you to <a href="http://fedoraforum.org" target="_blank">fedoraforum.org</a>. It<br>
> has for years now. I think I first joined Fedoraforums.org back when FC4 or<br>
> FC5 was out.<br>
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</div>I see that, but I don't think it is shown as being THE place for users<br>
to go. On the other hand I don't think that is really the point of<br>
your emails. You are unhappy with the direction with Fedora and I can<br>
understand and sympathize. In the end, I want people to find what<br>
makes them happy, and if Fedora is not doing it.. please do go find<br>
someplace that will do so.<br>
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I have no plan to kick people off the list for opinions I think we<br>
have all had at one time or another. I won't say this is the best<br>
avenue for getting anything done with it.. but I understand. Good luck<br>
with your next OS.<br>
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