<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">0. Whats your fedora account system login?</span><div><br></div><div>lrsz<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?</span></div>
<div><br></div><div>Not yet but I want to<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">to more?</span></div><div><br></div><div>I´m planning to looking around to make my decisions</div><div> <br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">'easyfix' tickets?</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><a href="https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target="_blank">https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I looked at them but I was not able to contribute, I mean not yet ....<br>
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>Yes , please<br><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">you do any of the above?</span></div>
<div><br></div><div>I tried to connect to the server but I got a problem with the credentials and I just ask in the IRC</div><div>channel but I haven´t found the solution.</div><div>
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Finding tickets in your interest area?</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br><br>The hardest part of getting involved is see where you can help, </div><div>I can see that there is so much work to do but before to start to help</div><div>I need to be involved with the projects and that´s what I´m currently doing.<br>
<br><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">helpful or interesting?</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>I haven´t assisted the irc meetings yet<br><br><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">8. What is your favorite movie of all time?</span><br>
</div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">LOTR</font><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-07-05 8:59 GMT-04:00 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jtroan@jt-sw.com" target="_blank">jtroan@jt-sw.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">> I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the<br>
> following data or anything related you can think of that might help us<br>
> make the apprentice program more useful.<br>
><br>
> 0. Whats your fedora account system login?<br>
><br>
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</div>jtroan<br>
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> 1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at<br>
> our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?<br>
><br>
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</div>Yes<br>
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> 2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute<br>
> to more?<br>
><br>
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</div>Somewhat, but my first area of focus was decided in May -- creating the<br>
map, big picture, server list, etc. of fp.o.<br>
<br>
The intent is to help show<br>
1) How fp.o is laid out logically, connectively, and geographically.<br>
2) What are all the pieces in the big picture and what they do. This part<br>
includes a (very) short description of what each type of server does and<br>
(hopefully) a link to something within the fp.o wiki/docs that has all of<br>
the details.<br>
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> 3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice<br>
> 'easyfix' tickets?<br>
> <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14" target="_blank">https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14</a><br>
><br>
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</div>Yes, but even the "easyfix" tickets were more than I could dive into<br>
without having to ask a ton of questions.<br>
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> 4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever<br>
> reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?<br>
><br>
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</div>Absolutely.<br>
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> 5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help<br>
> you do any of the above?<br>
><br>
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</div>Based on some comments I've seen on IRC since I joined in May, the<br>
onboarding of newbies needs improvement. Hopefully, my project (in #2<br>
above) will help with some of that.<br>
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> 6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?<br>
> Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?<br>
> Finding tickets in your interest area?<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>The absolute biggest problem is getting enough hours to do this. (36-hour<br>
days and quitting my paying job are the best solutions, but neither is<br>
particularly practical. :) )<br>
<br>
>From a realistic point of view, the hardest part at the beginning was (and<br>
still is) how fp.o is organized (not people-organized, but<br>
system-organized)... what does the fp.o environment look like? Working on<br>
my project (in #2 above) is helping me see this.<br>
<br>
The other notable challenge is all of the terminology, acronyms, and<br>
shorthand I see used on the IRC channels. I know from job experience that<br>
this type of thing just happens when the long-timers (lifers?) are so<br>
familiar with it all ... and it's just a matter of time and research to<br>
fill in some gaps.<br>
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> 7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them<br>
> helpful or interesting?<br>
><br>
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</div>Yes, even to the point of rearranging my work schedule to be able to attend<br>
them from home. (I probably can't reach IRC from the office, but it also<br>
gives me a dedicated block of time to spend on FP.)<br>
<br>
They are definitely interesting and somewhat helpful. Still being a<br>
newbie, I don't understand everything going on and the meetings are a<br>
combination of help and confusion.<br>
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> 8. What is your favorite movie of all time?<br>
><br>
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</div>(This wasn't on last month's list. :) )<br>
<br>
I don't know if I can name just one. Several of my favories include most<br>
(but not all) of the Star Trek movies... Spaceballs... Hunt for Red<br>
October... Hudson Hawk... most (all?) of the official Bond franchise...<br>
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> Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including<br>
> improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.<br>
><br>
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</div>Some of the documentation needs to be cleaned up, possibly updated, and<br>
connected together better. I'm thinking of making this my next project,<br>
considering that I'm still very much behind the (learning) curve in being<br>
readily able to provide any technical help.<br>
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