[fedora-java] WildFly status (and future) in Fedora

Max Rydahl Andersen manderse at redhat.com
Mon Aug 24 13:00:10 UTC 2015


Hey,

Do we really need to insist java applications like WildFly and Eclipse 
are fully
decomposed down to individual RPM's ?

Could it not be sufficient (and easier) to just have one big RPM for 
this ?

Meaning, sure - need to find source and rebuild to check origin but 
don't need
to keep coordinating dependency jar updates *unless* there is a known 
security issue
for a jar included ?

just thinking out aloud.

/max

> Hiya,
>
> It's been long time since I talked to you guys. There are many reasons
> for it, but most important one is that I was pulled to do some of the
> Docker work on the Middleware side and I simply had no time :/ Even
> worse, I do not see the end.
>
> WildFly is in a pretty bad state now, sadly. New versions (8.2.0.Final
> and later 9.0.0.Final and of course 9.0.1.Final) are avialable since a
> while but it the package has not been updated. I did some work to make
> it happen:
>
> 	https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1181081
>
> But then I was pulled back to the other work and it basically died.
>
> The current status is a result mostly because of lack of my time, but
> also no joy with dealing with such a fragmetized beast. The single
> distribution was split into pieces and currently the WildFly depenency
> chain contains around 200 packages, whereas I'm alone maintaing about
> 130 of them (if you want to take a look at packages I maintain:
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/goldmann/). When I was
> working only on packaging of JBoss AS (and later WildFly) this was
> doable, but in current situation - I'm not able to maintain it 
> anymore.
> It's really sad to see how this energy put into this effort is now
> dissapearing.
>
> There are currently many bugs reported against my packages (WildFly
> deps), but I just don't have time to fix them making some people 
> upset,
> which is of course not my intention. Gil is helpful as always sending
> some patches, but I don't even have time to look at them :( Basically 
> -
> maintaining WildFly is a full time work for one person.
>
> I need an advice from you guys how to proceed in a best way with this
> stuff, since I'm not closely following the Java world in Fedora 
> anymore
> (sorry!) maybe I'm missing some obvious solutions.
>
> Orphaning WildFly (and other packages) is the last thing I want to do,
> but I'll do it if we'll not find any solution.
>
> So, here we are, let's talk!
>
> --Marek
>
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/max
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