When are we going to have the spins named appropriately?

Thomas Janssen thomasj at fedoraproject.org
Thu Aug 13 12:38:39 UTC 2009


2009/8/13 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com>:
> On Thursday 13 August 2009 10:26:56 Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> On Thursday 13 August 2009 01:49:49 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> > I was looking through planet.fedoraproject.org, and came across this
>> > mockup: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/spins-directory.6.png
>> >
>> > And I am reminded once again that we are not a "Fedora Desktop" spin
>> > but a KDE Spin. And that Fedora has no Gnome spin.
>> >
>> > I find the continued use of this terminology to be increasing unfair,
>> > for lack of a more appropriate term.
>>
>> At first, we should start calling us appropriately. I think we should use
>> "Fedora KDE Desktop Edition" (as used on Fedora download page) and not "KDE
>> spin". Then maybe more people realize, who we are!

Very Good! +1

> I'm confused now - they are trying to move us to the spins page, Mairin has
> this mail [1] as argument they can't do it in the way we want. I don't see it
> there...
>
> So we should check our status by asking Board, someone willing to do it? And
> propose us as Fedora KDE Desktop Edition, not only to be some spin deep in the
> download page hidden from our users.
>
> Check [2].
>
> [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-
> July/msg00088.html
> [2] http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/fedora-spins-site-idea/#comments

It doesn't look too good for us as long as they are not willing to
make a awesome first page (like some mockups) *without* a default
Image to download. Instead of that default-image-download-link, there
should be just a link "Download" which links to *all* *Editions*.

There they could give a "default" activated (radio button?) Edition
which can be GNOME (i dont care). *But* with some screenshot and
further information of what the user will get *for every Edition*.
Possible to do it in an nice way with ajax for example. That way even
new users could decide what they want.

Thats the only way in my eyes to grow the base (as stickster wrote)
not only with new users, not willing or able to find out what KDE,
GNOME or XFCE means. Right now, and even with the new page, we get
only the same users as currently. And everyone not aware of what i
write should just join the IRC channel #fedora for a while.

As i already wrote in a longer thread on -devel ML. "If you hunt for
the dumb, you will get the dumb" That might be a too german-ish
phrase, but it is true. Thats what we get right now.

I bet there are enough arguments against me.

Just my 2 cent.

-- 
LG Thomas

Dubium sapientiae initium



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