High resource usage for Konq, nspluginviewer and Xorg...

Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at
Fri Feb 26 17:50:51 UTC 2010


Linuxguy123 wrote:
> I normally wouldn't indulge this behavior,

Then please don't! Leave! It would do us all a favor!

> a) As far as I know huge changes were made to the KDE multimedia
> subsystem, aka Phonon.

Nonsense. Phonon 4.3.80 was pushed weeks ago. Phonon didn't change at all 
with the KDE 4.4 update.

> CPU usage was not high before the KDE 4.4 update.  It is after.

Are you sure there wasn't a Flash update like the one Rex Dieter is 
mentioning? Flash is the likely culprit for your issue.

> There were no changes to nspluginviewer or the nvidia driver during this
> period.

This statement just shows your ignorance:
1. nspluginviewer is a component of Konqueror, so it did in fact change,
2. but all nspluginviewer really does is bring up plugins. The Flash plugin 
in particular, a known CPU eater. And nspluginviewer has very little code, I 
strongly doubt anything in nspluginviewer itself uses any noticeable amount 
of CPU.
(Note that nspluginviewer is not the same as nspluginwrapper, those are 
completely different pieces of software.)

> b) I have reported a number of bug that were shut down due to "the use
> of the proprietary nvidia driver" where it was ultimately found that the
> driver had nothing to do with it.
> 
> Specifically, at least these two.
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504173

You say these issues just disappeared, so nobody knows what component they 
were in in the first place. There's no evidence that they were not, in fact, 
driver issues.

> c) We don't expect anyone to be able to troubleshoot issues within
> proprietary software.  But we also don't think that issues should just
> be written off carte blanc when a proprietary driver is involved.
>
> Given the number of changes made in the Phonon effort and the fact that
> neither nspluginview and kmod-nvidia changed, what do you think the
> chance of the issue lying in Phonon is ?

Extremely low. Your premises are false. See above.

This seems to be a Flash issue. Complain to Adobe.

> d) Open source software is about personal FREEDOM.  The freedom to use
> whatever we want, according to our criteria.  I feel it is unfair to
> outright criticize people for using proprietary components where they
> feel they must.

The "freedom" to enslave yourself is not true freedom, you must resist 
proprietary software to be truly free.

        Kevin Kofler



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