kdepim4.5

[Eli Wapniarski]

On Saturday 03 July 2010 08:00:32 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> On Saturday 03 July 2010 01:36:16 Ryan Rix wrote:
> > On Fri 2 July 2010 11:02:27 pm Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > > On Friday 02 July 2010 20:25:33 Thomas Janssen wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Eli Wapniarski
> > > > <eli at orbsky.homelinux.org>
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > On Friday 02 July 2010 18:03:10 Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > > >> Christoph Kaulich wrote:
> > > > >> > just a short question, will there be a kdepim 4.5 beta1 build
> > > > >> > for fc13?
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> When it is provided by it's upstream.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Turns out just yesterday, some preliminary kdepim-4.5-beta1
> > > > >> tarballs were provided to packagers, so we'll get to work on
> > > > >> those, and get into rawhide and kde-unstable asap.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Errr.... What does that say about stability?  If I recall correctly
> > > > > there were serious issues with kdepim 4.5 that delayed the release
> > > > > with kde 4.5. Does that mean the developers think that they have
> > > > > been resolved? If not is it wise to include kdepim 4.5 so deep in
> > > > > the release cycle?
> > > > 
> > > > Kdepim 4.5 will be released (the final version) together with KDE SC
> > > > 4.5.1 or 4.5.2 (of course if the developers think it's ready then,
> > > > what it look like from a todays POV). Means yes, it is wise to
> > > > include it in the release cycle of rawhide.
> > > 
> > > OK then here are my real questions... Will kdepim 4.4 accompany kde 4.5
> > > in unstable? If kdepim 4.5 turns out to be unusable (not beyond the
> > > realm of possibilities given kdepim's 4.x's history and what is already
> > > known about kdepim 4.5) then how to downgrade back to 4.4 and not screw
> > > up kdepim  and akonadi due to all the configuration changes that no
> > > doubt will accompany the upgrade to 4.5? As asked previously... Is it
> > > wise to include kdepim 4.5 so late in the release cycle when we already
> > > know that it isn't going to be included in the final release of kde
> > > 4.5? And since I really do not want to run kdepim 4.5 on my computer
> > > because I know it doesn't work anywhere close to where it should will
> > > I be able to maintain the current kdepim 4.4 with kde 4.5 as things
> > > stand at the moment?
> > > 
> > > Rawhide fine.... kde-unstable???? hmmmmm... I dunnoooo.
> > 
> > This is kde-unstable you're talking about right? The same repo that has
> > shipped alphas, betas, and release candidates for every recent SC
> > release? The repo that is designed for those who want to test this
> > software, and has the ability to downgrade and report on any packages
> > which may have issues? *THat* one? If you can't run unstable things,
> > then you shouldn't be running kde- redhat/unstable, sorry.
> > 
> > > Eli
> > 
> > Ryan
> 
> In kde-unstable along the path to testing and then fedora-testing and
> finally stable. And with relative certainty that things are going to work
> by the end of the process. We know that kdepim 4.5 is not going to work.
> That means putting the current unstable packages into testing. And these
> packages are still in beta and rc status. Again, we are reasonably certain
> that Beta means beta and RC candidates are rc candidates. There may some
> bugs, but they work overall. And we usually don't see alpha versions.
> Besides, kdepim 4.5 is pre alpha. We know that it simply does not work. It
> doesn't belong there. If I'm not mistaken, kde-redhat is more of a fedora
> packaging testing environment rather than a kde development environment.
> 
> Eli

Oh... kdepim 4.5 would be a perfect candidate for a "kde-redhat development" 
repo.

Eli

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