criterion update: add "switch user" to Shutdown, reboot, logout

[Martin Bříza]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:43:01 +0100, Dan Mossor <danofsatx at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 02/02/2015 09:48 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Matthias Clasen wrote:
>>> Testing it is fine of course, but I don't really think we should block
>>> on this. Also worth considering: user switching has never worked 100%
>>> reliably, so increased qa focus may just uncover old heisenbugs, and
>>> turn them into blocking issues.
>>
>> Maybe for GNOME it hasn't. For KDE, using KDM or SDDM, user switching  
>> has
>> always just worked. Nowadays, it should just work with GDM too, but of
>> course it can be subject to bugs and undocumented behavior changes in  
>> GDM
>> (which wouldn't be a first).
>>
>> IMHO, adding user switching to the blocker criteria is a good idea.  
>> Bugs in
>> user switching can easily lead to data loss, either directly (e.g., if  
>> user
>> switching crashes the machine) or indirectly (e.g., if, due to user
>> switching not working, somebody just logs the other account off without
>> caring about running processes, or even hits the power or reset button  
>> if
>> the session is locked).
>>
>>          Kevin Kofler
>
> +1 - Agreed, or whatever. Since switching to KDE, I've not had _any_  
> issues with user switching in KDM or SDDM. You are correct in stating  
> that it doesn't work in GNOME. This is one of the reasons I use KDE  
> (among many other) - my family shares a computer, and we switch users  
> all day; this feature was one thing we used heavily on Windows and was a  
> requirement before I introduced Fedora to them.
>
> With all that said, I feel adding user switching to the blocker criteria  
> is a logical step - this is 2015. It has worked on Windows since Windows  
> Vista, circa 2003. I use it at home, and I use it at work as an  
> administrator to fix problems for my users without needing to log them  
> out.
>
> Just because it doesn't work on GNOME isn't a valid reason not to test  
> it and block on it if it is a feature that is used and depended on.
>

Well, you don't get user switching (and the kickoff item) every time  
something's messed up with your PAM session. This is not exclusive to GDM  
though, SDDM suffered from this a lot too in past. Changing something in  
PAM, PAM configs or the DMs can bring the problem back.
Anyway I agree this should be tested.