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Hi KDE list,<br>
I like to install a few users & play with new desktops every few
releases. I actually prefer KDE & XFCE to Gnome, but as sysadmin
I have to learn the default gnome stuff. It's still nice to be
familiar with a few other desktop environments & I'm real
impressed with the changes to KDE. Lots of COOL changes since F11...<br>
<br>
I have a new install of F13-64 & installed the yum groupinstall
"KDE Compilation", plus got the switchdesk packages, but could not
switchdesk from Gnome to KDE? As a regular user, the switchdesk gui
would popup & KDE was selected, but I was unable to get the
user's desktop to switch after restart-X/reboot & login again.
It appeared to have created the proper .Xclients files, but I'm not
sure I remember the details now. I don't understand why it is so
difficult to switch from gnome to kde now in f13? The default Gnome
GDM doesn't have session menus either like it used to, to allow the
user to pick their session/desktop. <br>
<br>
Finally I decided to make KDM & KDE the system defaults &
"yum install system-switch-displaymanager-gnome" packages. Then ran
'system-switch-displaymanager KDM" and restarted runlevel 5. Ah, a
nice familiar KDM login with menus & session choices. Now when
the user runs swtichdesk, the changes take effect. ref:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE</a><br>
<br>
Could someone please verify if there is a bug with switchdesk, or if
it needs a dependency to automatically get the
system-switch-displaymanager packages to work properly for avg
users? It shouldn't be this hard to change the default gnome desktop
to kde? May be I'm doing something wrong... It doesn't make sense
that users should have to ask an admin to install KDM as the default
to be allowed to use switchdesk & get at their KDE desktop
environment. <br>
<br>
Also, it really bothers me the default GDM is so stripped down. The
default Gnome GDM, doesn't have a session menu anymore... only
"Shutdown Options" button in lower right corner <ick>. I
really dislike the new GDM, & will definitely use KDM with it's
nice menu choices & left-center layout.<br>
<br>
Thanks Rex & all on the KDE dev team, I've been a lurking a long
time on this list. - Cheers, Art Wildman<br>
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