<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"MS Gothic";
panose-1:2 11 6 9 7 2 5 8 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
panose-1:3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"\@MS Gothic";
panose-1:2 11 6 9 7 2 5 8 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
span.BalloonTextChar
{mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text";
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hey Qingwei,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> I guess I must declare my ignorance and confess that I do not know what “runlevel 3” means. I see the sign in window and able to click on my name and submit my pass word. There are about 5 options to select from dropdown of “session.” But, that’s as far as it goes before I see a blank screen with “Fedora” and logo at bottom of the screen. I just do not know what to do from there. Thanks, RJ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Qingwei Zhang<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 07, 2013 9:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> KDE on Fedora discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Installation woes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Did you enter the runlevel 3 and successfully log on using your username and password ?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Q.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>在</span> 2013-7-7 <span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>下午</span>8:57<span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>，</span>"Ronnie A Jones" <<a href="mailto:raj.crzyrev@gmail.com">raj.crzyrev@gmail.com</a>><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>写道：</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hey Qingwei,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> I made an attempt, but was not able to advance or do anything. Same results as before. Thanks, Ronnie</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Qingwei Zhang<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> KDE on Fedora discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Installation woes</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Hi Ronnie ,<o:p></o:p></p><p>There are something similar happened at my laptop. What i did is , reboot the system and enter the command line interface , (i.e ., runlevel 3,) and use yum group install command to install both gnome and KDE desktop environment , then reboot again , and things go well. <o:p></o:p></p><p>I am not sure whether it is an installation bug or not, but it worth a try.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Best regard,<o:p></o:p></p><p>Qingwei<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>在</span> 2013-7-7 <span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>下午</span>8:03<span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>，</span>"Ronnie A Jones" <<a href="mailto:raj.crzyrev@gmail.com" target="_blank">raj.crzyrev@gmail.com</a>><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>写道：</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Greetings,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> I followed your instructions and ran the “sudo fedup-cli –network 19” and it downloaded. Then, I went through the install process remembering your saying to me that it took probably overnight. I waited over 24 hours watching a screen with a blue background and the date and time digitally. So, I rebooted and the flash screen comes to Fedora logo in the center of the screen. Then a sign in window with my name. I input my password and the screen is dark green or bluish (?) with the Fedora logo at the bottom now of the screen. And, that’s it; nothing else happens. I move the mouse around not seeing anything at all. I can click on a restart or shut down button. But nothing else happens. Help!! Please… Ronnie</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Qingwei Zhang<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 06, 2013 9:10 AM<br><b>To:</b> KDE on Fedora discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Installation woes</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi Ronnie,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yes, George is right about the installation duration. I run fedup overnight to get upgrade. Sure Ronnie, I will help you with the installation. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>FedUP:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Please go through the FedUp webpage first, then you will use the command listed following in section of network of "Preparing for the Upgrade", <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>$sudo fedup-cli --network 19<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>and it takes about about one hour to finished at my laptop. Then you reboot and enter the system upgrade in GRUB selection. once the system reboots, there should be a new entry in the GRUB menu titled System Upgrade, that is the time-consuming part, I suggest you do it at overnight time.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Best<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Q.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, George Galt <<a href="mailto:george.galt@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.galt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>One thing to be aware of is that fedup can sometimes hang at the end of the installation. This happened to me going from FC17 to FC19. A manual reboot cures it. It is a known issue and the recommended course is a manual reboot. However, fedup can take **HOURS** complete, so run it overnight to be sure it's done.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#888888'>George</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, RAJones <<a href="mailto:raj.crzyrev@gmail.com" target="_blank">raj.crzyrev@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Hey Qingwei,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'> Could you possibly assist me? How do I go about running FedUp to upgrade from Fedora 17 to 19. What command line do I use? Thanks very much.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'> Ronnie</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Qingwei Zhang <<a href="mailto:qzhang.canada@gmail.com" target="_blank">qzhang.canada@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi Ronnie,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Did the installer successfully reach the command-line selection interface, i.e., the screen with several options, such as "Install Fedora 19", "Troubleshooting" , etc.? If you have seen it, press ESC to switch from the fedora logo booting screen to a more detailed progress screen, and let us know at which step the system freezing.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>By the way, if you have internet access on your PC, I think you can upgrade from Fedora 17 to 19 using FedUp, it is a more convenient way to get upgraded.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Gerry<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Ronnie A Jones <<a href="mailto:raj.crzyrev@gmail.com" target="_blank">raj.crzyrev@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hey Gerry,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Yes, I have the CD as the first device at BIOS setting. By the way, I downloaded the file twice and burned on two different CDs. Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Qingwei Zhang<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 05, 2013 2:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> KDE on Fedora discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Installation woes</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Hi Ronnie,<o:p></o:p></p><p>Could you please be more specific? Did you set boot from CD at Bios setting?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Best<o:p></o:p></p><p>Gerry Q. Zhang<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>在</span> 2013-7-5 <span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>上午</span>11:39<span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>，</span>"RAJones" <<a href="mailto:raj.crzyrev@gmail.com" target="_blank">raj.crzyrev@gmail.com</a>><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>写道：</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Greetings! I have downloaded Fedora 19 KDE Spin and burned the iso to CD. When I begin the installation process, it does not enter or begin the process. I am currently using Fedora 17 Gnome 3 with KDE software applications. I prefer the KDE application. But, problem is the installation process will not initiate. Thanks for your help. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-- <br>Ronnie A. Jones <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>kde mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kde@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde</a><br>New to KDE4? - get help from <a href="http://userbase.kde.org" target="_blank">http://userbase.kde.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>kde mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kde@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde</a><br>New to KDE4? - get help from <a href="http://userbase.kde.org" target="_blank">http://userbase.kde.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#888888'>-- <br>Qingwei Zhang<br> <br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>kde mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kde@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde</a><br>New to KDE4? - get help from <a href="http://userbase.kde.org" target="_blank">http://userbase.kde.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ronnie A. Jones <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>kde mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kde@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde</a><br>New to KDE4? - get help from <a href="http://userbase.kde.org" target="_blank">http://userbase.kde.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>kde mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kde@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde</a><br>New to KDE4? - get help from <a href="http://userbase.kde.org" target="_blank">http://userbase.kde.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-- <br>Qingwei Zhang<br> <br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>kde mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kde@lists.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">kde@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde</a><br>New to KDE4? - get help from <a href="http://userbase.kde.org" target="_blank">http://userbase.kde.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>kde mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kde@lists.fedoraproject.org">kde@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde" target="_blank">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde</a><br>New to KDE4? - get help from <a href="http://userbase.kde.org" target="_blank">http://userbase.kde.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>