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On Mar 23, 2015 2:53 AM, "Felix Miata" <<a href="mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net">mrmazda@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Pete Travis composed on 2015-03-22 21:48 (UTC-0400):<br>
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> > Felix Miata wrote:<br>
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> >> Is there a list anywhere of what packages are required to get any session to<br>
> >> proceed beyond crash notices? Out of more than a dozen, probably more than<br>
> >> twice that, of F22 & Rawhide installations, I've only ever seen what KF<br>
> >> desktop looks like on one, and that on the slowest system on which I have<br>
> >> either installed, an Athlon XP 2000+.<br>
><br>
> >> I'm not interested in having anything more than the bare minimum, plus<br>
> >> Konsole, Konq, Kmix and Ksnapshot. The only "k" groupinstall I"ve found,<br>
> >> kde-desktop', wants to add 362 packages to the 112 KDE/KDF packages already<br>
> >> installed, among them bluedevil, bluez, kamera, kdegames-minimal, kmail,<br>
> >> kontact, multiple NetworkManager leaves, dmraid, firewalld, ghostscript,<br>
> >> bazillions of python*, speech-dispatcher, lvm2 and many other packages, all<br>
> >> inconsistent with minimalism, and unlikely that I'd ever use on purpose.<br>
><br>
> >> On the latest, I left the screen just sitting after closing the crash<br>
> >> windows. Eventually the locker tried to start, so now my screen's center is<br>
> >> covered with illegible (text in some tiny fraction of what I can see without<br>
> >> a magnifier) syslogd messages. Switching to a tty to login, I get a<br>
> >> continuous flood of syslogd messages about the locker that makes killing<br>
> >> startkde tough.<br>
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> > Afaik - and I sincerely hope to be corrected if I am wrong - the closest<br>
> > thing to an 'official' system requirements list resides in the Release<br>
> > Notes. As an F22 tester, I hope you would send some signal to the docs<br>
> > team if you observe higher requirements than those stated for the previous<br>
> > release.<br>
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> I don't see anything about "system requirements" in TOC on<br>
> <a href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/21/html/Release_Notes/">http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/21/html/Release_Notes/</a>, but<br>
> "system requirements" isn't anything like what I was asking for.<br>
><br>
> Put another way, on a system that already can run TWM or IceWM or some other<br>
> X session besides KDE, what needs to be installed so that a Plasma Desktop<br>
> can be reached without any crash messages along the way, or the way being<br>
> halted, and subsequently being able to start and use Konq, Ksnapshot, Kcalc,<br>
> Kmix and Konsole. Since my OP I did some experimentingand found the following<br>
> seems to provide needed additions to a minimal HTTP installation:<br>
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> yum install \<br>
> alsa-utils \<br>
> cups-client \<br>
> gwenview \<br>
> kcalc \<br>
> kcm-gtk \<br>
> kcm_systemd \<br>
> kde-baseapps \<br>
> kde-settings-plasma \<br>
> kdm \<br>
> konqueror \<br>
> kmenuedit \<br>
> kmix \<br>
> konsole \<br>
> ksnapshot \<br>
> kwin \<br>
> mesa-dri-drivers \<br>
> plasma-desktop \<br>
> plasma-systemsettings \<br>
> plasma-workspace \<br>
> xorg-x11-apps \<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-ati \<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-evdev \<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-fbdev \<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-intel \<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-libinput \<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-libinput \<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-nouveau \<br>
> xorg-x11-drv-vesa \<br>
> xorg-x11-font-utils \<br>
> xorg-x11-server-common \<br>
> xorg-x11-server-utils \<br>
> xorg-x11-server-Xorg \<br>
> xorg-x11-utils \<br>
> xorg-x11-xauth<br>
> xorg-x11-xinit \<br>
> xorg-x11-xkb-utils<br>
> --<br>
> "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant<br>
> words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)<br>
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> _______________________________________________<br></p>
<p dir="ltr">My apologies, I completely misinterpreted your message. Its not clear how I would have done that so thoroughly...</p>
<p dir="ltr">--Pete </p>