<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Orion Poplawski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:orion@cora.nwra.com" target="_blank">orion@cora.nwra.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":ah" class="a3s" style="overflow:hidden">However, it will<br>
be good to get plasma 5 out there and tested and fixed so that when F23 comes<br>
out hopefully it will be usable. Meanwhile I think we'll happily stay on F21.</div></blockquote></div><br>Yes, agreed... at some point you have to take the leap and go to production in order</div><div class="gmail_extra">to iron out remaining issues. Testing can only take you so far, and people all test different</div><div class="gmail_extra">things. Each time you open up to a larger group of people new issues arise. I think this</div><div class="gmail_extra">group is an extremely valuable resource. If issues aren't reported, they cannot be addressed.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">One thing to keep in mind, when you can verify something is an issue, open a bug </div><div class="gmail_extra">report and search upstream to see if it has been reported there. If not, open an issue </div><div class="gmail_extra">upstream and reference that back to the bugzilla ticket. This helps track issues.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I believe this all makes a difference. People may get defensive, and at times the banter </div><div class="gmail_extra">gets a bit snarky; but all participating share the common goal of making Fedora a</div><div class="gmail_extra">better product for everyone.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div>