<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Piotr Gbyliczek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:piotr.gbyliczek@reconnix.com" target="_blank">piotr.gbyliczek@reconnix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Wednesday 16 September 2015 19:22:28 Felix Miata wrote:<br>
> Kevin Kofler composed on 2015-09-16 23:47 (UTC+0200):<br>
> > Felix Miata wrote:<br>
> >> That is in part because both cannot coexist on the same installation.<br>
> >> OTOH, KDE3 can coexist and is still available. And in Fedora, TDE can<br>
> >> also<br>
> >> coexist with v5.<br>
> ><br>
> > That explanation is incomplete. No 2 major versions of KDE can coexist in<br>
> > the same prefix. The reason OpenSUSE's KDE 3 is parallel-installable (with<br>
> > KDE/Plasma 4 or Plasma 5) is that they used the /opt/kde3 prefix for it.<br>
> > They stopped doing that with their KDE 4 packaging and now use the<br>
> > standard<br>
> > /usr prefix instead. So they are now stuck in the same situation as we<br>
> > are.<br>
><br>
> Just guessing, using /opt might have been so that kde2 and kde3 could have<br>
> been released in parallel, as happened with kde3 (in /opt) and kde4<br>
> (standard), to avoid what happened when kde3 was deprecated in favor of kde4<br>
> before it evolved into a similarly competent replacement. In openSUSE, kde3<br>
> remains available in standard repos, though it's not available as a primary<br>
> DE selection in its installer.<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>Looking at this discussion, I'm almost sure that people that would like to<br>
have KDE4 won't be bothered with having Plasma 5 installed, so Copr repo that<br>
removes Plasma 5 would be ideal for them :)<br>
<br>
I'm personally not that eager to get my system updated to latest release of<br>
Fedora, so I'm hoping when I will update, Plasma 5 will be much more usable to<br>
me. However, I can give some of my time to help track packages and add<br>
Obsoletes to spec files if somebody gives me separate Copr repo and some basic<br>
guidelines how one should work with such task.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Piotr<br>
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