On 19/04/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Dave Jones</b> <<a href="mailto:davej@redhat.com">davej@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 05:08:29PM +0100, Chris Brown wrote:<br> > > On 18.04.2007 23:23, Dave Jones wrote:<br> > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 01:47:55PM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:<br> > > > > I'd say let F7 testing iron out
2.6.21 for a while before deciding<br> > > about<br> > > > > FC6. We should be in the part of freeze where serious Fedora weenies<br> > > are<br> > > > > doing a lot of testing.<br> > > > Getting
2.6.21 into FC6 does also have the additional advantage that<br> > > > it's an extra round of testing for what will become the F7 kernel.<br> > ><br> > > +1 -- putting in in updates-testing quite soon might be a start.
<br> ><br> ><br> > +1 for moving it straight into updates for reasons already stated plus isn't<br> > a kernel upgrade dependent on user confirmation? I have always felt for this<br> > reason that updates-testing is not the right place for testing kernels as
<br> > the installonlyn plugin for yum ensures that a backup kernel (hopefully<br> > stable) is always available.<br><br>I usually recommend at least 1 day in updates-testing, if only to catch<br>any *really* stupid bugs. A few times I've been hit by dumb packaging thinkos
<br>and even a few 'doesnt boot' bugs which were blindingly obvious after testing.<br>Especially the older hardware, which I don't test as much these days.<br><br>updates-testing doesn't get the level of feedback that I'd like to see,
<br>but I think this is largely because a lot of people don't know it's there.<br>If firstboot had a "would you like to test experimental updates?" dialog,<br>we may find we get a lot more feedback. Well,.. I can dream.
<br></blockquote></div><br>If I want to test the latest and greatest I've always used your <a href="http://people.redhat.com/davej">people.redhat.com/davej</a> ftp. It would be good to have the above option you mention and the place for it would be the additional CD's dialog. I only discovered updates-testing by chance myself. I think there is room for a middle-ground between rawhide and updates but its probably a discussion for a list other than this one...
<br><br>Chris<br clear="all"><br>-- <br><a href="http://www.chruz.com">http://www.chruz.com</a>